out of velvet 125. I believe how close this buck is to the camera is making him appear bigger. He will also shrink some when the velvet comes off. Unique buck with another year he will be a giant I bet as he is probably 3 1/2 years old this year.

Just hoping to actually see him on his feet in the daylight and I'll be happy

those are all stabs in the dark I wouldn't try to score a deer with out a two clear views of each side , front & back everything else is a guess and your right hatchielover not a drop tine!!! he's also in the velvet !!! hope those guys are talking gross & in the velvet!!!