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Originally Posted by alleyyooper (Post 4123322)

With a young one who is already showing a interest in hunting with a bow and may want to rifle hunt since dad is I recommend a 243 or 7MM08 and a Savage rifle.

Thanks for the advice and for getting me to think about the future for my son.

I love the cost of that 243 Savage and it seems to get awesome reviews. Quick question...any scope recommendation to go with it?

I appreciate everyone's input so far.

TripleB

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Originally Posted by TripleB (Post 4123332)

I'd look at the Savage model 11 package with the Nikon scope.

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Originally Posted by Tnhunter444 (Post 4123151)

I would suggest you stay away from the Rem M770. A very good hunting Buddy bought one on a whim at Wally World one day and sold it shortly thereafter. Remington has already added another entry level rifle the model 783. Any of the scopes that come on a $300. package rifle are going to be of questionable quality, pretty much a crap shoot (no pun intended) as to whether they might even last a season. Linked below is a comparison review of several entry level rifles.

I'd suggest looking to a Nikon Prostaff as a good entry level scope. Finding one in 2-7x32 for a good deal would work as would finding great close-out deals (as linked below). Natchez and SWFA are known to have some great close-out bargains. My suggestion would be to steer clear of ballistics reticles (reticles having multiple aiming points) when looking for a scope. It's easy to get confused if not well acquainted with them.

http://www.chuckhawks.com/compared_b...omy_rifles.htm

http://www.natchezss.com/product.cfm...4563&src=tpCtg

http://www.natchezss.com/product.cfm...6420&src=tpCtg

DO NOT BUY THE 770. Remington has really cheapened out on they're guns lately and I know some guys personally that own 770's and hate them. its a shame but Remington is no longer the company it once was. on the other hand the Mossberg 100 ATR is a much better gun than most people think. a few of my huntin buddys have bought an ATR the last few years and love them. ive shot them a little as well and have never had any problems with them.

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Originally Posted by Tnhunter444 (Post 4123151)

Natchez and SWFA are known to have some great close-out bargains.

If you want to save a few $$, there's some Nikon Prostaff's and Redfields on the SWFA sample list. Also check Cameralandny for demo units.

I'd also recommend figuring out the complete setup before you buy anything.

For example the savage axis is about $300 and then you buy a Nikon prostaff 3x9 for $160 then you have $460 in an axis when you could have had a savage model 11 for about $500 with the same scope.

you can get a remington 700 ald for around $450-480 with a scope. Wal-Mart is the cheapest place to get one if their is a Wal-Mart by you that sales guns. if not basspro, dicks, cabelas, or gandermountain has them.

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Originally Posted by Bbj270 (Post 4123394)

You can but the scope is junk. Pretty good gun though

I agree the scope on the rem combo is the same as the 770 a bushnell banner. I would take it off and put a leupold on it then you have a good rifle.

I love my T/C Venture in the .308 Shot an 8 pointer at 225 yards with no drop in the bullet. Accurate gun out of the box and sells for $500 new and has a $75 rebate. They have had a couple of recalls but have the bugs worked out. Great customer service. My brother just purchased the same gun in the 7mm 08. Can't wait to see his reaction in the shot group. He'll be excited.

Any of the rifles I recommended will do the job.

The scope is the most important aspect to shooting well.

........Other than, your marksmanship ( nothing beats experience ) !!!

The rifle needs a few tricks; barrel hand lapped & free floated ( if not done by the manufacturer ), trigger job ( or drop-in trigger), bedding of the action & stock, lastly a hand full of different ammo "brands" (in different weights) appropriate for the twist in that particular caliber.

If I had only one deer rifle, it would be a .270 Win.