22-250, 223, or .308
02-13-2014, 06:27 PM
#41
Nontypical Buck
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02-14-2014, 11:56 AM
#44
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Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Kansas
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To the question at hand:
Comparing the .223rem, .308win, or .22-250rem cartridges for deer hunting, then hands down, the .308win is the way to go. You're looking at a rack of hammers, a 12oz, a 16oz, and an 8lb sledge, with the need for a hammer to break rocks. You can break a rock with a 12oz or 16oz hammer, but an 8lb sledge is the better choice. The 22 caliber rifles, the .223rem and .22-250, CAN kill deer, but they have their limitations.
On the topic of defining the use of "Caliber"...
Many years ago when I was first taught about firearms, I was taught that "Caliber" refered to the diameter of rifle barrel and bullet, as measured in hundredths of inches.
So the .308winchester is a "30 caliber".
Just did some poking around, the Speer Reloading Manual, 13th edition also uses this terminology, and based on these boxes of ammo, so does Nosler and Hornady, note that they both are labeled "22 cal" followed by the parenthetical .224" denotation:
So that's what I use. Both the .22-250 are "22 caliber" rifles, the .308win is a "30 caliber rifle".
But then you have things like the 44 caliber .44magnum, which is actually .429" diameter groove to groove, not land to land. And this vernacular doesn't take into account the thousandths place digit, as in the case of "45 caliber" rifles versus pistols, which would be 45.2 caliber vs 45.8 caliber... Both would just be called "45 caliber", and nobody complains about specifics. Where i start to itch the most, the "33 caliber" rifles, .338win mag, etc. I REALLY want to say "338 caliber", but the back of my mind tells me it's wrong, so I always say 33caliber or .338" bore rifles (or light-heavyweight rifles
)
As far as the misuse of "caliber" when referring to a "cartridge", then eh, I'm not usually so picky. I try not to jump on people for wrongfully calling a "magazine" a "clip" either, because we all obviously understand what they're talking about. BUT... It does make me itch when someone wrongfully uses either case, I just don't make a big deal about it (maybe I shall change my name to "some mercy"???)
Comparing the .223rem, .308win, or .22-250rem cartridges for deer hunting, then hands down, the .308win is the way to go. You're looking at a rack of hammers, a 12oz, a 16oz, and an 8lb sledge, with the need for a hammer to break rocks. You can break a rock with a 12oz or 16oz hammer, but an 8lb sledge is the better choice. The 22 caliber rifles, the .223rem and .22-250, CAN kill deer, but they have their limitations.
On the topic of defining the use of "Caliber"...
Many years ago when I was first taught about firearms, I was taught that "Caliber" refered to the diameter of rifle barrel and bullet, as measured in hundredths of inches.
So the .308winchester is a "30 caliber".
Just did some poking around, the Speer Reloading Manual, 13th edition also uses this terminology, and based on these boxes of ammo, so does Nosler and Hornady, note that they both are labeled "22 cal" followed by the parenthetical .224" denotation:
So that's what I use. Both the .22-250 are "22 caliber" rifles, the .308win is a "30 caliber rifle".
But then you have things like the 44 caliber .44magnum, which is actually .429" diameter groove to groove, not land to land. And this vernacular doesn't take into account the thousandths place digit, as in the case of "45 caliber" rifles versus pistols, which would be 45.2 caliber vs 45.8 caliber... Both would just be called "45 caliber", and nobody complains about specifics. Where i start to itch the most, the "33 caliber" rifles, .338win mag, etc. I REALLY want to say "338 caliber", but the back of my mind tells me it's wrong, so I always say 33caliber or .338" bore rifles (or light-heavyweight rifles
)As far as the misuse of "caliber" when referring to a "cartridge", then eh, I'm not usually so picky. I try not to jump on people for wrongfully calling a "magazine" a "clip" either, because we all obviously understand what they're talking about. BUT... It does make me itch when someone wrongfully uses either case, I just don't make a big deal about it (maybe I shall change my name to "some mercy"???)
