What do hunters do with their dead deer?
02-07-2014, 08:08 AM
#31
Fork Horn
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Garrett County, MD
Posts: 251
Haha Barnee you jEdited by JWlol
This is honestly funny but I didn't even notice you were the same person.
You really do have a lot of stupid questions don't you?
This is honestly funny but I didn't even notice you were the same person.
You really do have a lot of stupid questions don't you?
Last edited by JW; 02-07-2014 at 08:33 AM. Reason: offensive language
02-07-2014, 08:21 AM
#32
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Northern Minnesota
Posts: 2,529
Originally Posted by Bob H in NH
Sounds like the guy is not a hunter, but someone who found himself with some land he'd like to open up to hunters. He has questions, so asked on a hunting board. Let's help him out instead of treat him like dirt or sarcastically answer the questions.
Hunters eat what they shoot. There are typically waste laws preventing just leaving it there.
Hunters eat what they shoot. There are typically waste laws preventing just leaving it there.
Bob, did you read his third post in this thread? He says they've owned the land for 20 years... Maybe he just got back from his education abroad
BTW... I'm not ripping into him... I was addressing everyone else... I think that JW is right, and this guy knows more than he's letting on.
Last edited by Lunkerdog; 02-07-2014 at 08:27 AM.
02-07-2014, 08:40 AM
#33
Super Moderator
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 7,375
I did get a response back for KS but did not answer the question completely. So I rephrased my question and submitted again.
However it is good to know about retrieving wounded game. In my state you DO NOT have the right to pursue it unless permission is granted from the landowner first.
In KS you can go get it without asking (at least how I read the attached ~ HOWEVER` - IF ASKED TO LEAVE YOU MUST DO SO.)
21-5810. Criminal hunting. (a) Criminal hunting is knowingly hunting, shooting, furharvesting, pursuing any bird or animal, or fishing:
(1) Upon any land or nonnavigable body of water of another, without having first obtained permission of the owner or person in possession of such premises;
(2) upon or from any public road, public road right-of-way or railroad right-of-way that adjoins occupied or improved premises, without having first obtained permission of the owner or person in possession of such
premises; or
(3) upon any land or nonnavigable body of water of another by a person who knows such person is not authorized or privileged to do so, and:
(A) Such person remains therein and continues to hunt, shoot, furharvest, pursue any bird or animal or fish in defiance of an order not to enter or to leave such premises or property personally communicated to such person by the owner thereof or other authorized person; or
(B) such premises or property are posted in a manner consistent with K.S.A. 32-1013, and amendments thereto.
(b) Criminal hunting as defined in:
(1) Subsection (a)(1) or (a)(2) is a class C misdemeanor. Upon the first conviction of subsection (a)(1) or (a)(2), in addition to any authorized sentence imposed by the court, such court may require the forfeiture of the convicted person’s hunting, fishing or fur harvesting license, or all, or, in any case where such person has a combination license, the court may require forfeiture of a part or all of such license and the court may order such person to refrain from hunting, fishing or fur harvesting, or all, for up to one year from the date of such conviction. Upon a second or subsequent conviction of subsection (a)(1) or (a)(2), in addition to any authorized sentence imposed by the court, such court shall require the forfeiture of the convicted person’s hunting, fishing or fur harvesting license, or all, or, in any case where such person has a combination license, the court shall require the forfeiture of a part or all of such license and the court shall order such person to refrain from hunting, fishing or furharvesting, or all, for one year from the date of such conviction. Do Note!:A person licensed to hunt and following or pursuing a wounded game bird or animal upon any land of another without permission of the landowner or person in lawful possession thereof shall not be deemed to be in violation of this provision while in such pursuit, except that this provision shall not authorize a person to remain on such land if instructed to leave by the owner thereof or other authorized person. For the purpose of determining whether a conviction is a first, second or subsequent conviction of subsection (a)(1) or (a)(2), ‘‘conviction’’ or ‘‘convicted’’ includes being convicted of a violation of subsection (a) of K.S.A. 21-3728, prior to its repeal, or subsection (a)(1) or (a)(2); and (2) subsection (a)(3) is a class B misdemeanor. Upon the first conviction or a diversion agreement of subsection (a)(3), in addition to any authorized sentence imposed by the court, the court shall require forfeiture of such person’s hunting, fishing or fur harvesting license, or all, or in the case where such person has a combination license, the court shall require forfeiture of a part or all of such license for six months. Upon the second conviction of subsection (a)(3), in addition to any authorized sentence imposed by the court, such court shall require the forfeiture of the convicted person’s hunting, fishing or fur harvesting license, or all, or in the case where such person has a combination license, the court shall require forfeiture of a part or all of such license for one year. Upon the third or subsequent conviction of subsection (a)(3), in addition to any authorized sentence imposed by the court, such court shall require forfeiture of the convicted person’s hunting, fishing or fur harvesting license, or all, or in the case where such person has a combination
I keep asking for an answer as I am sure wanton waste and only taking the head is a Criminal offense.
While I give the OP the benefit of doubt there is just too much that don't add up in today's world.
JW
However it is good to know about retrieving wounded game. In my state you DO NOT have the right to pursue it unless permission is granted from the landowner first.
In KS you can go get it without asking (at least how I read the attached ~ HOWEVER` - IF ASKED TO LEAVE YOU MUST DO SO.)
21-5810. Criminal hunting. (a) Criminal hunting is knowingly hunting, shooting, furharvesting, pursuing any bird or animal, or fishing:
(1) Upon any land or nonnavigable body of water of another, without having first obtained permission of the owner or person in possession of such premises;
(2) upon or from any public road, public road right-of-way or railroad right-of-way that adjoins occupied or improved premises, without having first obtained permission of the owner or person in possession of such
premises; or
(3) upon any land or nonnavigable body of water of another by a person who knows such person is not authorized or privileged to do so, and:
(A) Such person remains therein and continues to hunt, shoot, furharvest, pursue any bird or animal or fish in defiance of an order not to enter or to leave such premises or property personally communicated to such person by the owner thereof or other authorized person; or
(B) such premises or property are posted in a manner consistent with K.S.A. 32-1013, and amendments thereto.
(b) Criminal hunting as defined in:
(1) Subsection (a)(1) or (a)(2) is a class C misdemeanor. Upon the first conviction of subsection (a)(1) or (a)(2), in addition to any authorized sentence imposed by the court, such court may require the forfeiture of the convicted person’s hunting, fishing or fur harvesting license, or all, or, in any case where such person has a combination license, the court may require forfeiture of a part or all of such license and the court may order such person to refrain from hunting, fishing or fur harvesting, or all, for up to one year from the date of such conviction. Upon a second or subsequent conviction of subsection (a)(1) or (a)(2), in addition to any authorized sentence imposed by the court, such court shall require the forfeiture of the convicted person’s hunting, fishing or fur harvesting license, or all, or, in any case where such person has a combination license, the court shall require the forfeiture of a part or all of such license and the court shall order such person to refrain from hunting, fishing or furharvesting, or all, for one year from the date of such conviction. Do Note!:A person licensed to hunt and following or pursuing a wounded game bird or animal upon any land of another without permission of the landowner or person in lawful possession thereof shall not be deemed to be in violation of this provision while in such pursuit, except that this provision shall not authorize a person to remain on such land if instructed to leave by the owner thereof or other authorized person. For the purpose of determining whether a conviction is a first, second or subsequent conviction of subsection (a)(1) or (a)(2), ‘‘conviction’’ or ‘‘convicted’’ includes being convicted of a violation of subsection (a) of K.S.A. 21-3728, prior to its repeal, or subsection (a)(1) or (a)(2); and (2) subsection (a)(3) is a class B misdemeanor. Upon the first conviction or a diversion agreement of subsection (a)(3), in addition to any authorized sentence imposed by the court, the court shall require forfeiture of such person’s hunting, fishing or fur harvesting license, or all, or in the case where such person has a combination license, the court shall require forfeiture of a part or all of such license for six months. Upon the second conviction of subsection (a)(3), in addition to any authorized sentence imposed by the court, such court shall require the forfeiture of the convicted person’s hunting, fishing or fur harvesting license, or all, or in the case where such person has a combination license, the court shall require forfeiture of a part or all of such license for one year. Upon the third or subsequent conviction of subsection (a)(3), in addition to any authorized sentence imposed by the court, such court shall require forfeiture of the convicted person’s hunting, fishing or fur harvesting license, or all, or in the case where such person has a combination
I keep asking for an answer as I am sure wanton waste and only taking the head is a Criminal offense.
While I give the OP the benefit of doubt there is just too much that don't add up in today's world.
JW
Last edited by JW; 02-07-2014 at 08:44 AM.
02-07-2014, 09:06 AM
#34
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Allegan, MI
Posts: 8,019
JW---I did a google search on Kansas wanton waste law and this came up on their DNR website:
Giving, Receiving Game / Sale of Game / Wanton Waste
GIVING, RECEIVING GAME
Game given to another person must be accompanied by the donor's name, address, hunting or fishing license number or permit number (if permit required), and signature, as well as the date of donation (Download Suggested Donation Form )
SALE OF GAME
It is illegal to sell wild game meat. This includes the sale of game at banquets or charitable events. Furbearer meat may be sold. (See “ Disposing of Furbearers”)
WANTON WASTE
By regulation, hunters must attempt to find any game crippled or killed. Retrieved animals must be kept until they are
1.eaten;
2.taken to a taxidermist or processor; or
3.given to another person, or
4.transported to the hunter's residence
Giving, Receiving Game / Sale of Game / Wanton Waste
GIVING, RECEIVING GAME
Game given to another person must be accompanied by the donor's name, address, hunting or fishing license number or permit number (if permit required), and signature, as well as the date of donation (Download Suggested Donation Form )
SALE OF GAME
It is illegal to sell wild game meat. This includes the sale of game at banquets or charitable events. Furbearer meat may be sold. (See “ Disposing of Furbearers”)
WANTON WASTE
By regulation, hunters must attempt to find any game crippled or killed. Retrieved animals must be kept until they are
1.eaten;
2.taken to a taxidermist or processor; or
3.given to another person, or
4.transported to the hunter's residence
02-07-2014, 09:30 AM
#35
Super Moderator
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 7,375
Thanks TG - beat me to it as I just got a reply back to my rephrased question and you answered it.
I was sent the Kansas code to what it might cost if caught.
HUNTING VIOLATIONS: (Penalty Section - KSA 32-1031)
Wanton Waste of Game Birds or Animals KSA 32-1008
$25.00 for each animal or bird over limit [to me it ought to be higher!]
Court costs $98.00
But now you know it is against the law
And ethical hunters never ever do this!
JW
I was sent the Kansas code to what it might cost if caught.
HUNTING VIOLATIONS: (Penalty Section - KSA 32-1031)
Wanton Waste of Game Birds or Animals KSA 32-1008
$25.00 for each animal or bird over limit [to me it ought to be higher!]
Court costs $98.00
But now you know it is against the law
And ethical hunters never ever do this!
JW
02-09-2014, 07:20 AM
#36
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: S.W. Pa.-- Heart in North Central Pa. mountains-
Posts: 2,600
Just as soon as I read the OP's original post, I thought I smelled something rotten, and it wasn't dead deer. It was previously brought up about how in the world can you own a farm for 20 years in prime deer country and seem to be totally oblivious as to any hunting issues, particularly deer being left to rot on your property. I'm not buying it... none of it. Sounds like a hidden agenda here to me...
09-22-2014, 06:20 PM
#37
Spike
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 7
you really dont deserve an answer to this silly question but here goes.We hunt for food, to eat,to enjoy the outdoors even if we dont get a deer. While we hunters are eating safe meat from the wild you are chewing on antibiotic and hormonal infested meats from the grocery store..........
09-23-2014, 02:26 PM
#38
Fork Horn
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: N.W. Wisconsin
Posts: 308
Like others have said, EVERY hunter I know processes his deer and either keeps the venison himself, or donates it to foodshelves.
The ONLY times I have not kept the meat, was when the deer was eaten by predators overnight, and the one time we gutted out a deer that was full of black tumors and pus. We actually called our local warden and told him we did that, and he came and picked up the deer for analysis.
The ONLY times I have not kept the meat, was when the deer was eaten by predators overnight, and the one time we gutted out a deer that was full of black tumors and pus. We actually called our local warden and told him we did that, and he came and picked up the deer for analysis.
