abnormal antlers
12-25-2013, 07:20 PM
#71
Typical Buck
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you know what TOPGUN3006 your problem is that you are an IGNORANT disgrace to the hunting world. and you can't even understand my situation that was a complete accident. but to make it even worse you insult me by suggesting that I am not an ethical hunter. that I need to better understand the laws in my own state, one that I have hunted for years. also you had no good reason to report ROCKPORT. you where nastier than he was.
I have half a mind to report you as well. it is hunters like you that give us a bad name.
I have half a mind to report you as well. it is hunters like you that give us a bad name.
Last edited by buckman11; 11-25-2014 at 01:04 PM.
12-25-2013, 07:34 PM
#72
Giant Nontypical
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Location: Allegan, MI
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you know what TOPGUN3006 your problem is that you are an IGNORANT disgrace to the hunting world. and you can't even understand my situation that was a complete accident. but to make it even worse you insult me by suggesting that I am not an ethical hunter. that I need to better understand the laws in my own state, one that I have hunted for 10 years. also you had no good reason to report ROCKPORT. you where nastier than he was.
I have half a mind to report you as well. it is hunters like you that give us a badname.
I have half a mind to report you as well. it is hunters like you that give us a badname.
Last edited by Topgun 3006; 12-25-2013 at 07:38 PM. Reason: spelling
12-25-2013, 07:41 PM
#73
Typical Buck
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***LOL, me giving a bad name to hunting! What a hoot! In my 60 years of hunting I've never committed a game law violation and you my friend committed two egregious ones within just three days and now you're calling me out! You're a joke and so is Rockport!!! Don't call me out when you're the one who screwed the pooch multiple times on this one and if Rockport wants you to skate then he's as bad as you. End of story and you still haven't answered a single question that anyone has asked because you know it will just get you into more hot water because of MULTIPLE game law violations YOU committed, not me!!! You both can take a hike as far as I'm concerned and it's not unusual when someone screws up like you did to start blaming evryone but the one they should---THEMSELVES!!!
12-25-2013, 09:02 PM
#74
Typical Buck
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Location: Where animals get eaten
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you know what TOPGUN3006 your problem is that you are an IGNORANT disgrace to the hunting world. and you can't even understand my situation that was a complete accident. but to make it even worse you insult me by suggesting that I am not an ethical hunter. that I need to better understand the laws in my own state, one that I have hunted for 10 years. also you had no good reason to report ROCKPORT. you where nastier than he was.
I have half a mind to report you as well. it is hunters like you that give us a badname.
I have half a mind to report you as well. it is hunters like you that give us a badname.
12-25-2013, 09:22 PM
#75
Typical Buck
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Location: Where animals get eaten
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i'm not trying to say what I did was right. I know I made a mistake. what i'm more upset about is your attitude. in all my years of hunting I have never been as ashamed of another hunter as I am of you. atleast in Missouri we stick up for our fellow hunters nomatter what the cost. and understand when something like this happens. you sir are not that way.
12-25-2013, 10:42 PM
#76
Nontypical Buck
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So what we are talking about here is a guy putting a tag that is valid for a deer with antlers 2 7/8 inches long on a deer with a 3" antler and admitting it was a mistake?
Then he shot a 2nd deer with a 6 inch spike and put his any deer tag on it.
Seeming the big crime here is that the guy thought the law was antlers up to 3" rather than less than 3"
With all the accusations and the guy probably caught off guard a little with the interrogation act I'm not really sure what happened.
Then he shot a 2nd deer with a 6 inch spike and put his any deer tag on it.
Seeming the big crime here is that the guy thought the law was antlers up to 3" rather than less than 3"
With all the accusations and the guy probably caught off guard a little with the interrogation act I'm not really sure what happened.
Last edited by rockport; 12-25-2013 at 10:54 PM.
12-26-2013, 06:34 AM
#78
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Location: Allegan, MI
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So what we are talking about here is a guy putting a tag that is valid for a deer with antlers 2 7/8 inches long on a deer with a 3" antler and admitting it was a mistake?
***It's not as simple as that Sir! It took me less than one minute to find the MO description for a buck, including pictures that says "less than 3" requires a doe tag and 3" or more has to be tagged as a buck with his one buck tag that is issued for firearms season. If it's that simple to find, why didn't the OP know what he could and could not shoot and tag in his own state that he's hunted for at least ten years according to his post? The OP still will not say for certain what tag(s) he had when asked repeatedly, but finally chose to come back with his retorts to me after you started ragging on me again. If he had a doe tag or tags, neither of those animals could be legally tagged with them. The one buck tag MO issues for firearms season should have been used on the 3" first deer and he was done for the year as far as buck hunting. Not knowing his own state laws, or maybe even intentionally, he went back out and shot a second buck that may or may not have been properly tagged, as we dont know what that tag was good for. Are you getting my drift?
Then he shot a 2nd deer with a 6 inch spike and put his any deer tag on it.
***We do not know if it was an "any" deer tag, but he certainly used it as such. See above. If he was hunting within the county where he lives that has a 4 point restriction for his one buck limit, then that deer was also POACHED. That is why I'm/we're making such a big deal out of this. These are serious wildlife violations. One guy from MI just got ticketed because he was carrying his notched tag in his pocket as he brought his legal deer to his vehicle and the law now says it had to be attached immediately after the kill. The law had changed to the latter and he got a ticket for not knowing what the law was. That was certainly not nearly as serious as this situation, but he got a ticket for not knowing the law.
Seeming the big crime here is that the guy thought the law was antlers up to 3" rather than less than 3"
***Again, it took me one minute to find what MO classifies as a buck and it's very clear and even has pictures. If a NR can find what the law says that easy, the MO resident should sure know what he can and can't shoot and how to tag them. That is one of the first requirements to hunt besides the safety factors involved in the sport. You keep referring to it as a "big crime" mocking me and the others like it was really nothing to worry about. It was not a serious crime when comparing it to murdering a human, but it is in wildlife laws because one or both of those deer would be considered as poaching if you don't have a legal tag for the animal you shoot whether it's in or out of an open season.
With all the accusations and the guy probably caught off guard a little with the interrogation act I'm not really sure what happened.
***It's not as simple as that Sir! It took me less than one minute to find the MO description for a buck, including pictures that says "less than 3" requires a doe tag and 3" or more has to be tagged as a buck with his one buck tag that is issued for firearms season. If it's that simple to find, why didn't the OP know what he could and could not shoot and tag in his own state that he's hunted for at least ten years according to his post? The OP still will not say for certain what tag(s) he had when asked repeatedly, but finally chose to come back with his retorts to me after you started ragging on me again. If he had a doe tag or tags, neither of those animals could be legally tagged with them. The one buck tag MO issues for firearms season should have been used on the 3" first deer and he was done for the year as far as buck hunting. Not knowing his own state laws, or maybe even intentionally, he went back out and shot a second buck that may or may not have been properly tagged, as we dont know what that tag was good for. Are you getting my drift?
Then he shot a 2nd deer with a 6 inch spike and put his any deer tag on it.
***We do not know if it was an "any" deer tag, but he certainly used it as such. See above. If he was hunting within the county where he lives that has a 4 point restriction for his one buck limit, then that deer was also POACHED. That is why I'm/we're making such a big deal out of this. These are serious wildlife violations. One guy from MI just got ticketed because he was carrying his notched tag in his pocket as he brought his legal deer to his vehicle and the law now says it had to be attached immediately after the kill. The law had changed to the latter and he got a ticket for not knowing what the law was. That was certainly not nearly as serious as this situation, but he got a ticket for not knowing the law.
Seeming the big crime here is that the guy thought the law was antlers up to 3" rather than less than 3"
***Again, it took me one minute to find what MO classifies as a buck and it's very clear and even has pictures. If a NR can find what the law says that easy, the MO resident should sure know what he can and can't shoot and how to tag them. That is one of the first requirements to hunt besides the safety factors involved in the sport. You keep referring to it as a "big crime" mocking me and the others like it was really nothing to worry about. It was not a serious crime when comparing it to murdering a human, but it is in wildlife laws because one or both of those deer would be considered as poaching if you don't have a legal tag for the animal you shoot whether it's in or out of an open season.
With all the accusations and the guy probably caught off guard a little with the interrogation act I'm not really sure what happened.
12-26-2013, 06:46 AM
#79
Nontypical Buck
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***The OP was probably caught off guard because he didn't think about the ramifications of posting what he did on the net where people that do know the law could look into what he asked and see that he violated the law once, if not twice. IMHO we all need to watch for these types of things in order to keep our sport clean and above reproach. I'm not going to turn the guy in to the authorities, but IMHO he should man up and do it himself if he's the ethical person he says he is.
12-26-2013, 06:57 AM
#80
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Location: Michigan
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***The OP was probably caught off guard because he didn't think about the ramifications of posting what he did on the net where people that do know the law could look into what he asked and see that he violated the law once, if not twice. IMHO we all need to watch for these types of things in order to keep our sport clean and above reproach. I'm not going to turn the guy in to the authorities, but IMHO he should man up and do it himself if he's the ethical person he says he is.
What a joke.
Did you "man up" and turn yourself in when you broke the law?
For those who wonder why TOPGUN is constantly arguing with people and causing problems in this forum, here is the answer for you...
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These are the posting times for user name TOPGUN 3006.
I have to say that I was not surprised when I saw this..
I pity anyone who is so lonely on Christmas day they need to turn to an internet forum and create conflict by harassing others for entertainment.
Seems like someone has alienated so many people in his life that arguing and insulting folks he's never even met is all he has left..
I actually feel sympathy for you. Everyone should have someone to love them for the holidays.
For the record, I posted a thread about a strange gooey substance I found in a deer while I was processing it. TOPGUN attempted to turn the thread into a fighting argument. For the life of me, I could not understand why such an innocent question about something so UNcontroversial could set him off.. Now I know...
For those who tend to group around this guy in his defense, I suggest you reconsider what you are defending.
People are not perfect TOPGUN, and while I realize your career in law enforcement has probably turned you sour, it is no excuse for your behavior.
I only ask that you please refrain from participating in any thread that I post.
Thank you,