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Bullcamp82834 12-10-2013 04:53 PM

Way back when I was working patrol and was training a rookie we responded to a car - deer collision in which the deer went through the windshield and killed the driver.
A few people were standing there watching the EMTs work the victim.
I told my trainee to break out his knife because I wanted the backstraps off that deer.
Yep, the captain got a call and I got my ass chewed.

I was just joking with the rookie !!!!!

Murby 12-10-2013 06:15 PM


Originally Posted by Bullcamp82834 (Post 4106408)
Way back when I was working patrol and was training a rookie we responded to a car - deer collision in which the deer went through the windshield and killed the driver.
A few people were standing there watching the EMTs work the victim.
I told my trainee to break out his knife because I wanted the backstraps off that deer.
Yep, the captain got a call and I got my ass chewed.

I was just joking with the rookie !!!!!

I've never understood why people choose to drive so fast in areas where there are a high number of deer collisions.

I live in the middle of corn and bean fields on a dirt road. I drive slow until such time as I am on pavement that has wide open area's on both sides of the road and plenty of traffic. That's about two to four miles for me depending on the time of day.

In the past 5 years, I can count at least four instances where my caution has paid off.. Two of those instances where sure hits as I barely missed them at my usual slow speed. My wife has had even more close calls as she does a lot more driving than me.

What are these people thinking who drive so fast as to cause the animal to come right through the front window? Oh, it won't ever happen to me? I'm late for that all important party?

Its really tough to feel sympathetic when someone causes their own death due to ignorance.

As you are a police officer, I would imagine you have become somewhat desensitized to the stupidity of people.. Hence, the back straps joke..

Bullcamp82834 12-11-2013 03:59 AM

I definitely agree that extra caution is called for in deer country, especially at night and at all times during the rut. That being said, sometimes stuff just happens. I bagged two mule deer last year with my pickup truck and I always drive with an eye for deer or elk crossing the road.
The wreck I posted about was a freak. A truck hit the deer and knocked it into the air. A car going the other direction hit the airborne deer and it went right through the windshield. Nobody was speeding or driving in a reckless manner. It was just plain old bad luck.

rockport 12-11-2013 07:23 AM

20-25 a day seems crazy

Bullcamp82834 12-11-2013 07:51 AM


Originally Posted by rockport (Post 4106488)
20-25 a day seems crazy

Sure does.

Wouldn't leave time for anything else.

Assume an 8 hour shift.
We'll go with the lower number of 20 deer on a shift just for benefit of the doubt.
That's one deer every 24 minutes and I'm not even figuring in a lunch break.

There's time on the scene to gather info and travel time to the next call to factor in.

No way.

olsaltydog 12-11-2013 08:02 AM


Originally Posted by Bullcamp82834 (Post 4106496)
Sure does.

Wouldn't leave time for anything else.

Assume an 8 hour shift.
We'll go with the lower number of 20 deer on a shift just for benefit of the doubt.
That's one deer every 24 minutes and I'm not even figuring in a lunch break.

There's time on the scene to gather info and travel time to the next call to factor in.

No way.

Unless you calculate during peak rut when it may be a doe followed by a buck then you may have more instances of multiple deer being hit.

olsaltydog 12-11-2013 08:08 AM


Originally Posted by Murby (Post 4106424)
I've never understood why people choose to drive so fast in areas where there are a high number of deer collisions.

I live in the middle of corn and bean fields on a dirt road. I drive slow until such time as I am on pavement that has wide open area's on both sides of the road and plenty of traffic. That's about two to four miles for me depending on the time of day.

In the past 5 years, I can count at least four instances where my caution has paid off.. Two of those instances where sure hits as I barely missed them at my usual slow speed. My wife has had even more close calls as she does a lot more driving than me.

What are these people thinking who drive so fast as to cause the animal to come right through the front window? Oh, it won't ever happen to me? I'm late for that all important party?

Its really tough to feel sympathetic when someone causes their own death due to ignorance.

As you are a police officer, I would imagine you have become somewhat desensitized to the stupidity of people.. Hence, the back straps joke..

Dont think it has anything to do with speeding in a reckless regard. In NC on hwy 40 you find deer all over the roads this time of year (you also find the guys out picking them up to) and the speed limit is 65 or 70 dont know everyone goes 80. Same thing with hwy 24/17 most areas speed is 55 so everyone doing 60ish find quite a number of deer hit. Also wanted to add a deer going through the windshield is pretty easy thing to do depending on the vehicle and the hood but also on whether the deer is in mid leap or standing still. I know our local military base, bear season was closed after just two weeks last year. According to the LEO's our base quota was taking up by bears getting hit by cars and the increase in car incidences was due to the hour change so more drivers at sunset/ dark when the bears where more commonly crossing the road.

Bullcamp82834 12-11-2013 08:17 AM


Originally Posted by olsaltydog (Post 4106499)
Unless you calculate during peak rut when it may be a doe followed by a buck then you may have more instances of multiple deer being hit.

I must disagree. I did that job myself in country thick with deer.
Just can't buy it. I can remember days when I worked a couple car-deer collisions, maybe even 3 on a shift.
Someone is pulling your leg with that 20+ story.

rockport 12-11-2013 08:42 AM


Originally Posted by Bullcamp82834 (Post 4106505)
I must disagree. I did that job myself in country thick with deer.
Just can't buy it. I can remember days when I worked a couple car-deer collisions, maybe even 3 on a shift.
Someone is pulling your leg with that 20+ story.

I would agree

olsaltydog 12-11-2013 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by Bullcamp82834 (Post 4106505)
I must disagree. I did that job myself in country thick with deer.
Just can't buy it. I can remember days when I worked a couple car-deer collisions, maybe even 3 on a shift.
Someone is pulling your leg with that 20+ story.

I take numbers from hunters and fisherman with a grain of salt and tend to accept the story is being exaggerated.

Edit: now that I went back and checked, he is from Michigan so will concur the story is just that an exaggeration.


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