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rockport 12-01-2013 06:51 AM


Originally Posted by Bullcamp82834 (Post 4103272)
I have my cell phone number on all my no trespassing signs. If someone needs to cross my land to get to state or BLM land for a legitimate reason they can call me and it's usually no problem.
If I catch people or parked vehicles on my land with no permission things aren't so cordial.

That is a good idea

Murby 12-01-2013 07:33 AM


Originally Posted by flags (Post 4103235)
Forced to trespass unannounced

I was using the term loosely. Would you be happier if I replaced it with "need" or "want" or "feel compelled" ??

flags 12-01-2013 07:40 AM


Originally Posted by Murby (Post 4103297)
I was using the term loosely. Would you be happier if I replaced it with "need" or "want" or "feel compelled" ??

No, I'd be happier if you the advice of several and make sure you contact landowners before going on their land either during the hunt or before hand. Trespassing is trespassing and I don't think anyone "needs" to do it or is "compelled" to do it. It is a conscious decision.

Murby 12-01-2013 12:14 PM


Originally Posted by flags (Post 4103298)
No, I'd be happier if you the advice of several and make sure you contact landowners before going on their land either during the hunt or before hand. Trespassing is trespassing and I don't think anyone "needs" to do it or is "compelled" to do it. It is a conscious decision.

Well, you're not wrong.. but you're not right either...

Think about what you're saying carefully.. Expand and extrapolate to what other hunters may encounter where "OTHERS" are hunting.. (IE: Beyond your own known area)

Do you still think what you are suggesting is practical?? In many situations, it may not even be possible let alone practical..

And from the other perspective, good luck trying to call me! My phone number isn't listed.. Now what? Should we just let the wounded animal die and rot because there might be some over zealous, disconnected from reality, land owner who feels that his land is somehow special and that a human presence might upset the entire ecosystem?

You say "Trespassing is trespassing" ?? Think of what would happen if everyone thought with such tunnel vision..
56 MPH in a 55 MPH zone? Hey, speeding is speeding.. here's your ticket.
Oh the examples could go on and on... Hopefully you get the idea..

I do understand what you're trying to say however.... The jackazz with his 12ga and portable blind who sneaks onto your private property without need or regard for your rights needs to be prosecuted. But those are the exceptions you always hear about, not the rule.

The vast majority of trespassers don't realize they are trespassing, or are just passing through and mean no harm or foul...

Bullcamp82834 12-01-2013 01:14 PM

There's really no gray area to it.
Enter upon private property without permission and you are trespassing and violating the law. Real cut and dried. No trespassing by necessity. That's bunk.

When you are the guy paying the taxes on the land it's pretty simple.

Just call and ask and you won't have to deal with a pissed land owner........ who is probably only slightly less protective over that land than you would be over your virgin daughter.

Topgun 3006 12-01-2013 01:54 PM

Murby stated: "The vast majority of trespassers don't realize they are trespassing, or are just passing through and mean no harm or foul".


***You can sure come up with some pure, unadulterated BS in your posts and the one above is about as lame as you can get, LOL! If the jurisdiction where you are hunting doe not allow you on another person's property whether it's posted or not without their permission, then you absolutely must get that permission to go on it to track and/or recover a deer that you shot---no ifs, ands, or buts! Either get that permission before the season starts or seek it before you go on their property if the need arises. Relating this to 1mph over the speed limit is about as stupid a correlation as anyone could come up with and it sounds like you just like to argue after reading the posts you are putting up since you joined the site. Where the heck do you live in MI---maybe inner city Detroit to come up with all this BS you're posting?!!! Please quit embarrassing us up here with your baloney as our MI laws are very specific on trespassing and everyone damn sure knows whether they are on private property or not! If they don't, then they have made an initial mistake before going and shouldn't even be out in an area until they do know where they are legal to recreate.

Bullcamp82834 12-01-2013 02:41 PM

I completely agree with Topgun. The idea that trespassers either don't know they are trespassing or are just passing through and mean no harm is something I just don't buy.

We live in the age if affordable GPS units with chips to tell you who owns every acre of land on the planet.

The ignorance excuse just doesn't wash.

Freerorbust 12-01-2013 02:52 PM

Sucks to hear you're having trouble with that stuff man. I have a neighbor that has all his feeders right on my property line so he is tossing lead over my fence and damn does it make me nervous.

Topgun 3006 12-01-2013 03:08 PM


Originally Posted by Freerorbust (Post 4103377)
Sucks to hear you're having trouble with that stuff man. I have a neighbor that has all his feeders right on my property line so he is tossing lead over my fence and damn does it make me nervous.


All of the ranches I used to hunt down in south Texas had an unwritten rule that you didn't have any feeders or blinds near the property lines. One guy put up two blinds near a fence on his 2000 acres where we hunted east of Freer and was politely told by the neighbor who owned 30,000 acres that if they weren't immediately removed that his entire property line would be high fenced, which would effectively eliminate most of the hunting on his 2,000 acres. Needless to say, the blinds were moved right away. If I were you I would mention to him what I have just posted and see what his response is. PS: My Mom still lives out on the ne side of SA near 410 and I-35. Dad died on 9/11/11, but she decided to keep the house and stay down there, since they moved there way back in 1971.

Murby 12-01-2013 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by Topgun 3006 (Post 4103367)
***You can sure come up with some pure, unadulterated BS in your posts and the one above is about as lame as you can get, LOL! If the jurisdiction where you are hunting doe not allow you on another person's property whether it's posted or not without their permission, then you absolutely must get that permission to go on it to track and/or recover a deer that you shot---no ifs, ands, or buts! Either get that permission before the season starts or seek it before you go on their property if the need arises. Relating this to 1mph over the speed limit is about as stupid a correlation as anyone could come up with and it sounds like you just like to argue after reading the posts you are putting up since you joined the site. Where the heck do you live in MI---maybe inner city Detroit to come up with all this BS you're posting?!!! Please quit embarrassing us up here with your baloney as our MI laws are very specific on trespassing and everyone damn sure knows whether they are on private property or not! If they don't, then they have made an initial mistake before going and shouldn't even be out in an area until they do know where they are legal to recreate.

And people wonder why there are so many nightmare neighbors these days...
You can take any attitude you want... its your land for sure.. I'd bet money that you have one more more neighbors that are always a problem for you.. Trust me, its not them who is the problem.. its you that are a problem for them.

I've been friends with every neighbor I have ever lived near my entire life... and the neighbors next to them, and usually the neighbors next to those...

But to each his own... Good luck with your attitude... You certainly have every right to it.


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