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gunnysack 10-26-2013 03:07 PM

How far can I shoot a deer with 50lb compound bow
 
I have been hunting with my parker challenger for a while now. But I always shoot under 30 yards at 50 lbs. Could I shoot much further or what would the effective range be of it?
Thanks, Gunnysack

Bullcamp82834 10-26-2013 05:43 PM

The formula works like this:

For every pound of draw weight on the bow you can shoot 2 yards. This was arrived at by shooting an arrow from a 5 pound bow. The arrow went 10 yards. The American Archery Institute endorses this formula.

Therefore you should be good to 100 yards with a 50 pound bow.

Night Crawler 10-26-2013 05:59 PM

As stated above.

Further than you can accuratly shoot

Murby 10-26-2013 06:07 PM

I think the question was "how far can I shoot a deer".. Not how far will the arrow go.

Just because the arrow will travel 100 yards, doesn't mean its going to have the punch to kill the animal.

Wilcam47 10-26-2013 08:06 PM


Originally Posted by gunnysack (Post 4092359)
I have been hunting with my parker challenger for a while now. But I always shoot under 30 yards at 50 lbs. Could I shoot much further or what would the effective range be of it?
Thanks, Gunnysack

Ive heard you can...but I think if you are good you can get/let the animal come in under 30yds...

id say 60yds would be the effective range...for me that's a long ways for a bow shot.

Bullcamp82834 10-27-2013 05:02 AM


Originally Posted by Murby (Post 4092398)
I think the question was "how far can I shoot a deer".. Not how far will the arrow go.

Just because the arrow will travel 100 yards, doesn't mean its going to have the punch to kill the animal.

True, and my absurd formula was offered as just that. A response what I perceived as a silly question.
As we know, the effective range of a bow depends on the skill of the person holding the bow, not on the draw weight of the bow.

Remember what Fred Bear did with a recurve. How many people out there today could do that with a modern compound?

The sensible answer to the OP's question is to practice a lot with that 50 pound compound and you will know your own effective range. No one will have to tell you.

MZS 10-27-2013 05:42 AM

Seems that for a pass-through shot, you would not want to go much over 25 yds with a 50 pound bow. And there are accuracy issues too. Both arrow energy and accuracy play into a good killing shot.

Murby 10-27-2013 06:33 AM


Originally Posted by Bullcamp82834 (Post 4092446)
The sensible answer to the OP's question is to practice a lot with that 50 pound compound and you will know your own effective range. No one will have to tell you.

Correct me if I am mistaken, but, your use of the term "effective range" seems to refer only to his ability to be accurate.

I can hit a 4 inch target at a range that is further than my equipments ability to penetrate adequately. Which, of course, means that my effective range is the lesser of my equipment range vs. my ability to shoot accurately.

Bullcamp82834 10-27-2013 09:14 AM

OK.
I'll clarify.
Effective range in this case shall mean the maximum range at which the archer can consistently deliver a fatal shot to the vital area of a game animal using the weapon he has in hand.

"effective" was the big clue.

BIG TUNA 10-27-2013 03:19 PM

After about 50 yards, it is starting to be un-ethical to shoot the deer with a bow. By about that distance, the deer are able to see arrow, hear the bow and have time to react. Maybe they will move, maybe they won't. The risk is high that you will end up with a gut shot.

If you are really interested in seeing what your bow will do to a deer at 60, 70, 80, etc., yards, buy some large pumpkins and figure out when penetration stops.

Murby 10-27-2013 03:25 PM


Originally Posted by BIG TUNA (Post 4092554)
If you are really interested in seeing what your bow will do to a deer at 60, 70, 80, etc., yards, buy some large pumpkins and figure out when penetration stops.

Oh please do tell... Is there something I am not aware of about the similarities of a pumpkin and a deer??

I know that a pig is an excellent stand-in for a human, and I've heard about other accurate substitutes for various things, but a pumpkin for a deer? Never heard that one.

I just posted a while ago about a penetration problem at 35 yards so I have a lot of interest in this.

gunnysack 10-27-2013 05:19 PM

thank you all for your input. I can shoot a 5 inch group at 55 yards but i want to know how far away a deer should be at the maximum to get a good clean kill

Sosalty 10-27-2013 05:59 PM

Head to a bow manufacturer site that has 'arrow ballistics.' Find your arrow speed and distance. The Excaliber crossbow site gives the kinetic energy for certain speeds at distances. Mentions that 30 ft lbs is needed for pass thru shot on deer; sounds light to me.
http://excaliburcrossbow.com/content/arrow_ballistics
Another issue related to "effective range" has to do with sound speed. Though I've never hunted 'whitetail' a read of veteran bow hunters generally allows 30 yards; further distances risk your deer jumping the string. Though 50lbs doesn't seem to be in the fast/powerful range for bows, it's likely powerful enough out beyond your ability to place 'a humane' shot, assuming ethics is part of your 'effective' definition.

FlDeerman 10-28-2013 05:43 AM

Gunny I would say 30 yards would be my limit.I prefer 20.

bghunter777 10-28-2013 06:41 AM

32.6 yards

SwampCollie 10-28-2013 06:47 AM

I don't think I would try and shoot a deer off a bow at all... I would try and shoot an arrow.

I kid, I kid.

Anyway... most of the answer to this is going to depend on your draw length. 50# at 29" will throw an arrow with plenty enough velocity to kill a deer out to 35-40 yards. If your DL is only 22" (like my wife), then you are looking at 25 yards or so, and that's with a sharp broadhead on a good heavy arrow.

gunnysack 10-28-2013 07:13 AM

my draw length is at 25 it is too small but it is all I have for now. I am trying to save for a new bow but that might take a year to get to that point. As of right now this will have to do

Bob H in NH 10-28-2013 09:15 AM

You're missing WAY to many vairables for a solid answer. However you yourself provided a good starting point. You said "5 inches at 55 yards" that tells me your range is well inside 55 yards. Why?

- I am assuming that is known distance, warmed up, on a target, with good footing
- None of which applies to hunting where its a possibly known distance (did it move after you ranged it?), you are NOT warmed up, you probably don't have great footing and can't stand rock solid up right.

So I figure an average persons effective range drops by ~30%, so you are down to around 40ish.

Work your archery skills until you can hold less than 1 inch for each 10 yards. Effective kill zone is about 5-6 inches on a whitetail. Shave a bit off that since you really can't see the edge, and you get "how far away can you hit a 4 inch circle pretty much every time".

After that the bow, arrow, broadhead all make a huge difference to penetration. Sure light arrows leave the bow fast, but they slow down faster than a heavy arrow, so at some point the speeds equal, then swap.

Way more to the question that you meant, but it really doesn't take much arrow speed to penetrate into the chest of a deer if you have the right arrow and broadhead.

You say 25 inch draw length, that's pretty low so you are somewhat limited on speed out of the gate, but it can be done.

Tundra10 10-28-2013 09:13 PM


Originally Posted by Bullcamp82834 (Post 4092395)
Therefore you should be good to 100 yards with a 50 pound bow.

please don't do this:rolleye0011:

Bullcamp82834 10-29-2013 05:10 AM


Originally Posted by Tundra10 (Post 4092925)
please don't do this:rolleye0011:

Didn't think anyone could possibly take it seriously.


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