Frustrating Hunting
 

I love hunting with my family. But it can be so frustrating at times. We all hunt on a family farm. I put in tons of work in the early preseason by food plots, hanging my stands, putting cameras up, and glassing from afar so not to bump deer.

The family would love to kill some nice bucks we have some nice YOUNG deer. I keep telling them just give him a year or two and he will be a stud. Their response " I dont know if can let a buck like that go" That gets under my skin. They are killing their chances on killing the deer they are looking for. I have video of bucks i let pass and seen on trailcam the this year and a def shooters.

The work i put in gets thrown in the trash about a month from season opener. Thats when they decided to put up cams and treestands, 100yds from me. Every stand I put up they hunt out of my back pocket. Cause they know I put in the work and know the deer. They also check the cams every week and not in the middle of the afternoon. Right when its time they are coming to the field. Just this past weekend they checked cams and put some Crush attractant out Which is illegal. I told them they shouldn't do that but they are family and not about to stir the pot.

I just need to win powerball then buy my own farm and have ppl with the same hunting mindset and deer management as me.

Love my family but hunting with them is very frustrating. Sorry I just needed to vent a bit.

It sounds like you need to talk to them about the situation if you want/expect things to change. Get some nuts! :hit:

call the game warden on them...;)That sucks when they don't listen to your advice/example....I know this one "kid" 19yr old thinks he's the best deer hunter in the world and hasn't killed one legally...only ones he's killed have been hit by cars...then anytime he tagged along with me last season all he did was talk..:hit: Needless to say I haven't invited him hunting this year...

best thing you can do is shut up...seriously. Don't tell them what you know or where you go and what you see. I hunt a family farm, we all do the same as you. When we talk after a hunt all we see are does and small bucks until one is hangin in the shed. Hunting is a companion sport but it's not a infomercial. Be as elusive as the creature you after.

I check my game cards frequently so the deer are a little used to me being around there...at least that's what I tell myself...so I go and check today and the idiot I was talking about a couple posts back is on my game cam by MY STAND!!WTF!!! So I called his step-dad told him to tell him to stay out/off my property...especially since we are hunting...man that "kid" would have gotten an a$$ chewing if my wife was in there and he came be bopping through there:throw:Whats wrong with people??

Yep dont tell anyone anything or find a new place to hunt.

I have similar conditions but I do not own any of the land I hunt on. If you do not own the family farm outright then your stuck sharing the land.

Well, we shoot younger deer 2 1/2 to 3 1/2 on our 100 acre farm and only have a back 40 that's wooded and once every couple years a mature buck clams its stakes there and during the rut not to many come thru and we have 4 hunters that hunt it. So I guess my question is how much land is the family farm ? is it large enuf to keep deer living on it or is it a back 40 like mine? also is there other hunters out there in your hunting neighborhood and surrounding farms? because if your the only one that's QDM you might as well shoot the small ones too or you wont get nothing. in our neighborhood we got about 1700 acres of land that consists of about 12 land owners
trying to get every one on the same page is hard might as well through it deer management out the window. We got one guy that thinks you don't need to shoot doe's and that throes off the ratio and there is us that want to keep the does down so the bucks roam, then another thinks that if no does are shoot the bucks stay on there farm, then one other guy dose not give a **** and shoots buck fawns.! so I here your struggle but you should look at all the situations you might face and settle for what you got.
Because it takes a lot of land to own to manage deer the correct way. hope this helps and yes win the powerball LOL

and that's why the Fish and game/dnr/game warden of your state regulates the tags...

Why not hunt state owned land with the real hunters? Better yet, just go on a pay hunt.

I understand the fact the other hunters wont let the deer pass. But those deer dont get big by being dumb. If I do my part and could get few others to do it our chances of seeing mature deer increases.

Quit doing all the work for a few years. Don't put out stands or cameras and ground hunt for that time. In other words make it hard for them to hunt and I bet they go somewhere else. Then just set up your cams nd stands and tell them nothing.

What? Real hunters huh. I consider myself a real hunter and I don't hunt on public land. Why would someone go pay money for a government goat. I didn't think real hunter pay for a critter.:D

As long as they are within the law if someone wants to shoot a fawn, a doe or a 1.5 old buck is completly up to them. When and how they hunt as long as it is leagal is also up to the individual hunter. If they want to walk in and hang a stand in a bedding area in the middle of the day again is there choice. I agree that a little consideration and manners goes a long way but also works both ways.When we try to tell other hunters how,when, where and what deer they can harvest isnt considerate at all. As hunters we put way to much imphasis on killing a giant deer that we forget that it is just a deer and we wont starve if we dont harvest one. I know if I miss an oppertunity at a big deer it just makes me look forward to the next time I get to go try.

The goals are all the same. We want to shoot a big buck. If they get upset for not achieving the goals. Im going to tell them the mistakes that they are making and coach them so they can learn and be a better hunter so that they can get that nice buck that they want.

We are not hunting this farm for meat. That would be too easy and wouldnt be "hunting" for anything. ha

So people who hunt for meat are not hunters in your eyes? I stand corrected. ha. And to some people a 6 pt. 1.5 year old is a trophy.

Never had the problem
 

Never hunted, subject to one place; subject to the whims of hunting one place.
Hunted with friends one day, in their choice of location. Gone the next to my locations. I scouted; they didn't. Sometimes the perfect location is far from the perfect location. Never depended on others to keep making the final choices on the deer hunting location.

A lone eagle.

"Meat hunters" are still hunters 100%. The goal on this farm in not meat. Almost every single time we go out we have deer that we could kill for meat. We know that so their isnt much "hunting" in that. I like that challenge trying to out wit a old deer.

Hunters have goals they would like to achieve. If they achieve them then it is consider a successful hunt.

I see. Good luck to you I hope you get one! Just remember to enjoy your time afield it is a great time of year to be out there.

I love the way some try to define what a "real hunter " is. Most who use that term have no idea what they are talking about and want others to believe they know the secret to being a "real hunter " Some of the definitions are laughable and others are just plain stupid. I do so enjoy seeing them though.

What would your definition of a hunter be?

Somebody that actually goes out and tries to outwit a WILD deer by skill and probably a lot of luck.