Deer Hunting 30-06 vs 30/30 vs .243
#1
Spike
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Join Date: Apr 2013
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Deer Hunting 30-06 vs 30/30 vs .243
This question is not about the kill shot. I've knocked down 7 deer all with my .243.
I'm after opinions and experience regarding the blood trail when wounded or the ability for the shot to cut through the bush and still hit the target.
Please limit the discussion to these calibers unless you include the old 30 Remington.
Thanks.
I'm after opinions and experience regarding the blood trail when wounded or the ability for the shot to cut through the bush and still hit the target.
Please limit the discussion to these calibers unless you include the old 30 Remington.
Thanks.
#2
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None of them will "cut through brush", none...
Any caliber can have a sparse blood trail with any bullet used, fat and entrails do a pretty good job of plugging...
If you want to drop them in their tracks, a bullet through the neck or a high
shoulder shot will do the trick...If you want a good blood trail, use a low lung or heart shot and a bullet that will leave an exit...Pay attention to the exit angle so the bullet exits before it hits the guts...
My qualifications???
I've killed over 300 deer with a .243...
I've also cleaned and tracked a few more hundred on our farms where for the past 35 years or so we have killed 40-50 a year with a variety of weapons...
Once you get to a 100 grain bullet in .243, it isn't about the caliber, it's about where you put that bullet...A deer shot in the guts with a 30-06 or 30-30 is just as tough to track and recover as one hit there with the .243...
Any caliber can have a sparse blood trail with any bullet used, fat and entrails do a pretty good job of plugging...
If you want to drop them in their tracks, a bullet through the neck or a high
shoulder shot will do the trick...If you want a good blood trail, use a low lung or heart shot and a bullet that will leave an exit...Pay attention to the exit angle so the bullet exits before it hits the guts...
My qualifications???
I've killed over 300 deer with a .243...
I've also cleaned and tracked a few more hundred on our farms where for the past 35 years or so we have killed 40-50 a year with a variety of weapons...
Once you get to a 100 grain bullet in .243, it isn't about the caliber, it's about where you put that bullet...A deer shot in the guts with a 30-06 or 30-30 is just as tough to track and recover as one hit there with the .243...
#3
Spike
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None of them will "cut through brush", none...
Once you get to a 100 grain bullet in .243, it isn't about the caliber, it's about where you put that bullet...A deer shot in the guts with a 30-06 or 30-30 is just as tough to track and recover as one hit there with the .243...
Once you get to a 100 grain bullet in .243, it isn't about the caliber, it's about where you put that bullet...A deer shot in the guts with a 30-06 or 30-30 is just as tough to track and recover as one hit there with the .243...
I just bought a 30-06. I know it is a nice deer gun and good for moose.
I've been under the impression or misconception that the 30 cal bullets have a bit better "plowing power".
I've found that my .243 has not left much blood compared to deer hit with a 30 cal, but that could just as easily have been placement of the bullet
#4
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A bigger caliber is probably going to make a bigger hole going in and out and should leave a better blood trail in most instances. However, as stated above, no bullet is going to routinely plow through brush, especially if there is any distance between the brush and target, and still be on target to kill an animal.
#5
If you know you will always have time for that perfect shot placement 243. However if your style of hunting doesn't always allow for perfect form or there are hounds pushing him I prefer 06. The 06 will provide the Down range KE the 30-30 just doesn't have. If you are only taking still hunting type shots and don,t want to wipe out whatever quarter you hit 243. If you want to kill regardless what it look likes when it comes time to process 30-06.
Just my 2 cents after 40 yrs unknown first hand accounts and well into the 1000s of tracks, skinning, and processing.
Just my 2 cents after 40 yrs unknown first hand accounts and well into the 1000s of tracks, skinning, and processing.
#6
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If you know you will always have time for that perfect shot placement 243. However if your style of hunting doesn't always allow for perfect form or there are hounds pushing him I prefer 06. The 06 will provide the Down range KE the 30-30 just doesn't have. If you are only taking still hunting type shots and don,t want to wipe out whatever quarter you hit 243. If you want to kill regardless what it look likes when it comes time to process 30-06.
Just my 2 cents after 40 yrs unknown first hand accounts and well into the 1000s of tracks, skinning, and processing.
Just my 2 cents after 40 yrs unknown first hand accounts and well into the 1000s of tracks, skinning, and processing.
Have killed a few truckloads of deer being pushed by hounds with my .243...
#7
Spike
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If you know you will always have time for that perfect shot placement 243. However if your style of hunting doesn't always allow for perfect form or there are hounds pushing him I prefer 06. The 06 will provide the Down range KE the 30-30 just doesn't have. If you are only taking still hunting type shots and don,t want to wipe out whatever quarter you hit 243. If you want to kill regardless what it look likes when it comes time to process 30-06.
Just my 2 cents after 40 yrs unknown first hand accounts and well into the 1000s of tracks, skinning, and processing.
Just my 2 cents after 40 yrs unknown first hand accounts and well into the 1000s of tracks, skinning, and processing.
So let me rephrase the question. I have knocked down 1 deer in a run in the bush with my 243. Am I over thinking the problem?
I've gone from never missing to missing 3 in A ROW. Perhaps I am blaming the gun instead of me. 35 years ago my father loaded about
100 rounds of 120 gr. shells. They are all gone, and maybe I just don't trust the 100 gr factory. Anyway I appreciate everyone's input.
#9
A lot of deer were killed with those 3 calibers because everyone had ONE of those, back in the day !
Us kids learned on .22's and then graduated to a .243 for deer hunting back then or at least a 12 gauge.
A .30-06 was considered the top of the line; and the .22-250 was the new varmint/predator gun !!!
Us kids learned on .22's and then graduated to a .243 for deer hunting back then or at least a 12 gauge.
A .30-06 was considered the top of the line; and the .22-250 was the new varmint/predator gun !!!
Last edited by Sheridan; 04-09-2013 at 07:25 PM.
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***Yep, no way he loaded 120 grainers for a .243 at any time and the 100s, when placed properly, will do a number on a deer.