Topgun 3006

That's about the biggest crock of baloney I've read other than your statement that you can't tell a bucks size when you're hunting with a rifle, LOL! Give us all a break please!!!

iowa whitetail

Not being a new hunter no you cant. Im trying to tell This guy putting high power in your hands just starting out can screw up a chance later. Im not trying to make an argument on this guys thread just putting my opinion to help him. The hardest step to getting the huge buck is not shooting him when he is big. Thats going to be hard for first timer with a high power.

outdooraddict

I stand corrected. Pardon whilst I remove my foot from my mouth

Topgun 3006

***Your opinion or theory makes no sense when you are trying to say that the gun one has in their hand is going to determine whether he can tell if a buck should be shot or not because of it's size. People normally have scopes on shotguns now and most also use binos, so how in the world does the gun make a difference on deciding whether to shoot a deer or not! Anyway, I don't recall any discussion about what you're even talking about as far as what size deer he will want to shoot or to even have a chance at.

Nomercy448

20yrds or 200yrds, either the guy can judge the bucks or not. Distance is irrelevant.

I guess I forgot that only shotguns or bows can take trophy deer... Yeah, because that's how it reads in the B&C books...

buffybr

Now I'm really confused.

iowa whitetail

Im saying there is a difference in a big buck and a huge buck kinda like large and extra large

FlDeerman

Go with the 12ga for a first gun,much more versatile.

buffybr

No, it just proves that big bucks can be killed with shotguns and archery gear.

The decision to kill a deer has nothing to do with the type of weapon the hunter is using, as long as the deer is within the hunter's capability with that weapon. The use of good optics will allow a hunter to judge the quality of a deer as well at 200 yds as he can at 20 yds.

I'll go out on a limb and say that a good portion of hunters can't judge the age of a buck regardless how far away he is. And another good portion of hunters don't care!

There are a whole lot of first time deer hunters that are very happy with their first spike buck.

Yes, your statement that you can't shoot a HUGE buck if you shoot him when he is a BIG buck is true IF you live in a perfect world or you are hunting in a high fenced property. Not all hunters are trophy hunters. Not all bucks are killed by hunters.

Not a deer story, but there are some hayfields across the road below my house. The landowners don't allow any hunting there. For several weeks last fall I had been watching 8-10 elk, including a pretty good 5x5 bull feeding in those fields.

Then one day I saw those elk feeding across the hill behind my house. They were on my land, I had an elk license in my pocket, and I can and have killed elk there in previous years. I have killed a pile of elk in the past, I have two big bulls mounted on my wall, and both of my freezers were full, so I decided not to shoot that bull.

Three days later I was driving in to town and there was that bull again, lying on the side of the road with magpies feeding on him.

Good luck on convincing all of the other deer hunters in the world that they should only kill B&C monster bucks, and good luck convicing me and the other experienced hunters on this forum that the key to growing huge bucks is not to hunt with a rifle.

iowa whitetail

Thats why we all have diff opinions. If you ask me witch I am experienced as well, thats what i say. As far as the guy asking what gun get for all them the shoty is what you want you dont need a high power to kill a buck good luck have fun. For the record i dont and never will hunt high fence area and still let them walk by.