145 rack worth?
 

Any rough ideas what a 145 gross 10 point symmetrical rack is worth? I found prices for sheds but not an intact rack with skull.

Look on ebay and you should get an idea what people wil pay. I would say $50-100 depending ?

1.45 penny per point

Thats what I'm worried about, not worth much! I shot this beautiful big 10pt buck on county land, my last hunt ever with my deceased bud Bob, so I'd like this buck mounted in his honor and memory. Joe Nieman from Feathers plus Taxidermy, formerly Unity WI, the taxidermist, stole it. It's gone! He claims it got stolen from him. However, I talked to the local game warden and he said Joe Nieman sold everything he had, burned the rest, and skipped to Ontario. This happened over 2 years ago. I kept this known info from the perp while keeping in contact with him on Facebook, pretending to be his bud (I considered him a bud before this happened). Anyway, he keeps promising me everything and delivers nothing! So I'm thinking of suing; for the 1st time in my life! I'm a logger and even paid him for the mount in advance, with a partial truck load of firewood (because he complained he was out). On top of that he had my 11year old boys 5.5 pound Bass that he was going to mount. It's gone also! Anyway I gave him $300 in firewood, and got nothing but Anger! I'd pay 5 grand to get the mounts back! What to do?

I'd go kick the crap outta him.

My brother in-law had the same thing happen to him. Sucks but not sure there is much he can do about it. I don't believe he was out of any money but he lost a nice rack. Hope you can get your situation resolved. Just don't understand how a supposed friend could do that.

I was wondering how much money i should ask for? $500? $1000? I have no idea? If he's still in Canada i don't know if i can sue him, he told me he's back, but a young fellow's living and fixing up his old house, a neighbor said Joe lost it to the bank. I use the term "bud" loosely he mounted another deer earlier for me, and if i was in his neck of the woods i'd swing in and bs with him, never thought he'd do this.

Forget it as hard as that will be, especially if he is still in Canada. Anyway, you lost me with your opening question and then followup comments on what is going on. It's not worth your health worrying about it any longer, unless the guy happens to show up in your area again. If he happens to do that, he's pretty damn stupid!

Sorry to hear about that. If you were close by, I could give you some racks that would blow the doors off that one. I don't keep em anymore. If someone sees them and wants them, I let them have them. That dude that took them needs a good kick in the sack.

If you have something in writing from him on Facebook acknowledging this loss, then whether or not he was robbed is not the issue - he owes you. And if there was a fire, he was probably compensated for your loss. Trouble is he is in Canada. Normally, you would collect in smalls claim court - the written acknowledgement would be proof enough. Check with your local courthouse on what you can do. Perhaps there is not much.

Appears that you would only be able to collect $200 at most - just saw a comparable listing on ebay for about $165.

Yep it's not worth much, sentimental value should count for a little, but probably doesn't. He also got pre paid $300 worth of firewood, a cape and my 10yr olds nice Bass. Thanks for the offer Red Green but i don't want someone else's rack on my wall, it's the deer I shot and payed for to be mounted, that i want on my wall. Yes MZS I have written proof on his guilt. He claims he had a sign that said it's the customers responsibility to have insurance lol. I told him BS. So... rack=$165, cape=$20, firewood=$300, Bass=$20?

As my dear old departed Dad used to say: "What goes around comes around!" The guy will be judged one day and if he is what you say I wouldn't want to be him!

I am still looking for this punk, Joe Nieman, he moved to Ontario, from Wisconsin. Anyone know anything about him? I would appreciate any info? Send a PM.

It would cost you more to sue him than the rack and fish is worth and then there is no assurance that you would collect. Winning a law suit is no guarente you will get paid, then you have to put a lien on something he owns. It is your time and money so it depends on how much you are willing to spend on principle and then take a chance on being out the rack, fish and the money you spent to sue.

Have you tried to find out where/how he sold everything? Locally? On line? etc?

I'd forget about him for now and pursue the deer.

I had a problem with a taxidermist a few years ago.

I dropped 2 deer off and to my surprise he told me to just pay when I picked them up.

A year later he called yelling at me because I had not paid him yet. I got all worked up and jumped in my truck and headed his way at that point I just wanted my deer to take somewhere else (I was afraid if I paid him I still wouldn't get my deer back). I got there and he wouldn't let me in. I ask to see our paper work and he got it but kept waiving it around and wouldn't let me actually read it. Then he told me if I tried to take the paper work he would "whip my a**" as he stood inside with the door cracked. I then started to go in after him but luckily caught myself and backed off.

He called the cops and when they arrived they told me all I could do was file a civil suit.

The problem is one of the deer was a 200+ inch typical and what happened is he had people wanting to buy it so he did not want me to get it back he wanted to sell it and I didn't want to win money in court I wanted my deer back.

I hated it but I ended up working it out as a "misunderstanding" and got my deer back without going to court. I thought it was odd when I dropped it off and he didn't want money down. I'm pretty sure his plan was to sell that deer from the start.

I hear you Oldtimer I just want to talk to him and go from there, but i can't find a number. Every lead dried up Rockport. i was doing an internet search on him last night and this old thread came up. Oh well i'm not going to stop it's a matter of principal.

Yeah, I believe I would go the "keep your enemies close" route.

Joe Nieman
 

This guy Joe does live in Canada. To be specific it's Longlac. He's done the same to people here. This is a true fact as I also live in Longlac! He's upset more than a fair share of our little town. Not much love for him

Message me ! I don't know how to send a message..I can tell you all about him...he lives in the same town as me ! I can tell you so much it's not funny

My hunting partner also had problems with a taxidermist. Moral of his story was if the deal is to good to be true than it isn't true.


Ask for references from others who has had work done, not just 5 or 6 either.


:D Al

I messaged you Jilly, thanks for any info :)

No, the moral of the story is to track him down and make it right!

That is the moral of your story.




:D Al

Well Alleyyooper, It certainly is. Iv'e talked to a game warden about the situation, and other people who were ripped off by this guy & hopefully justice will be served one day.

Longlac Ontario, Joe Nieman, this thread is finally getting some results, thanks Jilly!! Thank you Huntingnet!

So if this guy lives outside the USA what will you be doing?

Help me out? I have a few ideas.

The whole purpose of this thread is to get justice?

I wish I could, but I have no idea how something like that could be handled when the guy is in another country. You can bet your butt that the authorities won't get involved in something like that since there is no way you can even prove that anything the guy has, if he even has anything, is yours. I also wouldn't go up there and try to do anything or you will wind up being the bad guy and may not make it back to your family. Some things just need to be forgotten even though it's hard to do.

Even if you could prove he cheated and or defrauded you, the crime is not serious enough to have him extradited. You only remedy is civil suit and good luck getting him back to sue him. No one, and I mean no one hates to get cheated more than I do but there are times when we just have to stop dwelling and let it go. On a scale of bad things that happen to people from one to ten, this is about a one. It seems like more when it s personal because it is a personal insult.

I have a friend who got stiffed on a business deal for 75K from an outfit in Canada. Unless the person comes back to the USA he won't have any luck getting his money back

I'd say that on Oldtimr's scale of 1 to 10 that is probably a 10, and even then there isn't much of anything you can do but cry some and go on with life. A deer rack is certainly a waste of time to even still be thinking about IMHO!

Yup it was an established export business. My friend bought a local product here in the states and brokered to Canada at a profit. The business had been in operation for years. One fine day the USA product went out as usual and the check was never received. The Canada company resold the product in Canada as normal but never paid for it to my friend. He spent a fair amount on lawyers but it would have cost more than he got stiffed to go further.

Sorry about your friend, however they usually come back.

he lives in Longlac Ontario now
 

He lives in Longlac Ontario