Which Camo
#12

asat. Best camo pattern on the market, bar none. Mossy oak, realtree, etc do nothing for you as far as deer are concerned. They do not break up your outline. I have had deer looking right thru me from 5 yards away on the ground. You have to remember that deer do not see the way we do.
But, check out these pics with your human eyes:






But, check out these pics with your human eyes:





#14
Typical Buck
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: The "empire" state-NY
Posts: 583

I'm going to mention NaturalGear with a caveat.
Not only have I found it to be a great pattern for deer, but more than one time on stand I've had a bird of prey perch within feet of me totally unaware of my presence until I moved!
The caveat: their product line seems to have random availability & I feel the quality could be a bit higher, though for the price it is fair.
ASAT-my friend & I learned about this several years ago now & he rec'd a few garments at Christmas. We did a comparison test. I understand deer "see" differently but, we were both able to pick out the ASAT much easier than the NatGear pattern in various backgrounds(including different seasons)-and he is color blind!
I do think ASAT is good quality & have had their Elite line on my wish list for awhile. The thing is, I've harvested far more deer than my buddy has!
I once had my photo taken, at a distance, wearing Mossy Oak & Real Tree 3d-I may as well have been dressed in hot pink- just one big human shaped blob.
To be honest,the old style Forest Green always worked for me & I've talked with guys who swear by the newer digital camo versions as they are readily available and fairly inexpensive!
Not only have I found it to be a great pattern for deer, but more than one time on stand I've had a bird of prey perch within feet of me totally unaware of my presence until I moved!
The caveat: their product line seems to have random availability & I feel the quality could be a bit higher, though for the price it is fair.
ASAT-my friend & I learned about this several years ago now & he rec'd a few garments at Christmas. We did a comparison test. I understand deer "see" differently but, we were both able to pick out the ASAT much easier than the NatGear pattern in various backgrounds(including different seasons)-and he is color blind!
I do think ASAT is good quality & have had their Elite line on my wish list for awhile. The thing is, I've harvested far more deer than my buddy has!
I once had my photo taken, at a distance, wearing Mossy Oak & Real Tree 3d-I may as well have been dressed in hot pink- just one big human shaped blob.
To be honest,the old style Forest Green always worked for me & I've talked with guys who swear by the newer digital camo versions as they are readily available and fairly inexpensive!
#15

ASAT-my friend & I learned about this several years ago now & he rec'd a few garments at Christmas. We did a comparison test. I understand deer "see" differently but, we were both able to pick out the ASAT much easier than the NatGear pattern in various backgrounds(including different seasons)-and he is color blind
I'm not saying that Nat Gear is bad stuff or that you haven't had good experience with it. Most of the time its about playing the wind, being quiet, and being still or unseen. But there is no doubt in my mind that camo can play a critical role in the right situation, and that can make or break the season!
#16

By the way, the Elite gear is nice. I have a pair of the cold weather baselayers heavy bottoms and they keep my pretty warm with a pair of poly sweatpants, BDUs and my ASAT bibs. I like them, but if I could go back to when I first started purchasing ASAT, I would get all my baselayers, rimmed beanie (or regular), and midlayer layer uppers from the First Lite section. It all 100% merino wool and I hear it's great stuff. Then I would get the leafy 3/4 Face Mask, Elite Gloves, Elite Jacket and Elite Pants (unless I wanted the First Lite Knab pants), and possibly the Elite Zip Mock. You will need layering with the Elite stuff though; it is not insulated or all that heavy. The jacket makes a great outer layer as long as I put on the right combo underneath. Day One makes insulated pants (high back!) and jackets, but I can't speak to their quality or fit.