My first deer(2) 1 shot 2 kill
 

I killed these does thanksgiving weekend. Just learned how to put the pics up. I was using buckshot and hit both of them. http://m1354.photobucket.com/albumvi...e.png.html?o=0

nice deer, i think buckshot is illegal here. Either that or no one uses it, i personally wouldn't. Nice deer though! how far away were they?

Nice size does! Yes, you can use buckshot in Pa.

is there a shot requirement like size wise? can i use 00 buck? i know one place thick in pines where its just deer trail tunnels, maybe ill give it a shot once.

We can't use buckshot here in Maryland.

isn't 1 shot 2 kills illegal?

glad you killed 2 vs. wounded 2...

"isn't 1 shot 2 kills illegal?
glad you killed 2 vs. wounded 2..."


Not if he had tags for both of them, but I would not be bragging about shooting 2 deer with one shot, especially with buckshot, because it couldn't have been very good shot selection and could have resulted in wounding, rather than a good, humane kill like you mentioned.

Nicely done on your first deer. Next time, wait till you have a solid, good shot on one deer, and then take it. This will save you a big headache later if you can avoid wounding one. But good job. HKPA, buckshot is legal ONLY in certain areas in PA. So be sure to check up on that.
-Jake

Dont use buckshot kid. Buckshot is for people who kill deer not hunt them.

Not to take away from your first deer but there is not reason to ever be legally able to use buck shot for a deer.

Not so. Best hunter I know likes his Rem 1100 stoked with 000 when hunting early season. Experience, knowing limits... buck shot is absolutely lethal used within limits

that said, I'm not a great fan... I'd prefer ML...

Don't bust his chops too bad fellows, he is young!!! Think about your first kill, probably didn't have the internet or for some of us even cell phones...

As far as buckshot and deer, it is very effective if a fellow knows what he is doing...It's been a Southern tradition since before the Revolutionary War...If you don't like it, fine, deer have been lost and wounded by plenty of other weapons as well, by hunters that didn't know their limitations...

As far as buckshot and deer, it is very effective "if a fellow knows what he is doing..."


And therein lies his problem if he killed two deer with one shot! It's for use at very close range and should only be used in a gun that will shoot a very tight pattern with it, which many won't.

Anyone who says buckshot should be illegal is as stupid as their comment. Buckshot is cheap and does just as much damage. Stand 30yds from me with some 00 buck shot we'll see how far you can run. I use 00 while running dogs and still hunting in thicker brush.

I have to agree with buckshot being lethal. Every deer I have shot with buckshot has been a one shot kill. Not to mention they laid right where they were shot. But I also agree that it has it's limitations and anyone planning to use it should pattern their gun first and know it's effective range.

congrtats on the deer. don't worry about what most of these cats have to say. instead of welcoming a young hunter into the fold. they want to inform you that you killed the deer wrong. if it legal then hammer on. i hope you kill 2 everytime you pull the trigger................tony

congrtats on the deer. don't worry about what most of these cats have to say. instead of welcoming a young hunter into the fold. they want to inform you that you killed the deer wrong. if it legal then hammer on. i hope you kill 2 everytime you pull the trigger................tony

Yea, listen to Tony and go ahead and bang away with that buckshot at whatever distance you feel like. Who gives a **** if you wound two or three for every one you kill or maybe you can go for three with one shot next hunt. What a dufus remark!!! Please listen to the final remark in the post by Woodsman88 and know your gun and its limitations whether it's with buckshot or anything else!

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The shot I made , I was not tring to shoot both of them. I aimed at the bigger one and peppered it from shoulder to rump. A few stray pellets hit the other in the spine. I was 25 yards away. And yes i was legal because it was a doe day. DOE DAY : limit two anterless deer. I got my first deer and the limit. Trust me everyone everything I did was legal.

I know the limit of buckshot . And my gun. Is 25 yards close enough to hit anything? I won't and don't take shots that I'm not sure of. And if you retread Tony's comment he said " I hope you kill 2 every time you pull the trigger" that just sounds like he said he wished me luck..... Not told me to go on a shooting spree.

I don't believe what you did was illegal if you had the tags to cover your butt. However, I will stay with what I just stated. You have come back with two posts that basically reinforce what I stated. You obviously don't know when to shoot and not to shoot even at 25 yards if you killed a second animal by mistake with one shot!!! If that gun you used put buckshot from shoulder to rump and still had pellets outside that zone to kill another animal you should not have taken the shot. That would be the case if the second doe was next to OR behind the one you drew down on. Please don't come back and say you didn't see the other deer and make it even worse!

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Back off the guy.

Guy covered his arse with having the right tag on the right day I guess, didn't he?.

So he lucked out and didn't shoot three. You never lucked out before?
I wouldn't believe you if you said you never 'had any luck' when seeing or shooting deer.

Yeah, this is the way to teach someone how to hunt more effectively. Bust his balls until he never comes back.

Don't be an idiot. He's new, get it? He'll learn. Most of us have learned the hard way whether we admit it or not.

SMH.:hit:

How's a guy going to learn anything the right way when people come on a thread and congratulate him for doing what he shouldn't? What would he have done if he hadn't had two doe tags? What does luck have to do with knowing when and when not to shoot and knowing your weapon? I'm not busting anyone's balls, but rather trying to tell him that he needs to think before he takes another shot. Sorry, but I won't sugar coat anything when it comes to hunting and firearms!

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Listen dude I don't really care what you think or say. What matters to me is that I killed my first deer, not, what you say. P.S. : on a doe day I don't need tags . I hope you have a good night and happy Hunting to you. G - gage Johnson

Listen back Dude because after 60 years in the field I may know just a little more than you do and am just trying to pass a little bit of it along!!! I dont give a damn if you didn't need any tags for them. From your description of the incident you were wrong if one shot hit two animals, so please learn from it!!! That's all I'm trying to get across to you and any other newbies that think it was okay! Happy holidays and be safe out there!

The one thing in forums that bothers me consistently is people being down on something because it isn't what they do....or isn't legal in their area. In Virginia buckshot is legal. In many counties here shotgun is the ONLY legal way to kill a deer. In a lot of those counties I think it is a stupid law but it is the law so I go with it. with My shotgun I have no problem taking a shot out to 40 yds . I have 15 pellets of 00 and will have absolutely no problem taking a deer at 40 or less.

Topgun 3006 -If you have 60 REAL years of experience in the field chances are you too old to work a computer so stop trying to fool people. The kid said he doesn't care what you say so stop talking.

If in your "60 years in the field" experience you never screwed something up or did anything sketchy or visited a "gray area" in terms of legality then your a flat out liar. Sorry but that's just pure BS. Every single one of us has done something big or small that we prolly thought about after and said "damn...maybe shouldn't of done that or did it different". Your gonna sit there and tell me that your never fired a shot too early or too late in the day and that you counted down to the exact second of when you could legally pull the trigger? Everyone screws up at some point just like if ya shot a button buck but thought it was a doe. I'm sure alot of guys will give you a ton of crap about it but it happens all the time. My old man is 60 and has been hunting since he was 5 and even he screwed up in Canada about 10 yrs ago and shot a bull caribou and the bullet passed through and hit a cow he didn't see stand behind it. Killed both of them. Wasn't intentional and he owned up to it to the outfitter who was cool about it and used one of his own cow tags on it to avoid a unnessasary call and harassment from game wardens. That story alone visits a screw up to being sure of the back ground behind your intended target and also visits a gray area of legality with tagging. Lesson learned. Give the guy a break!

You guys are sure injecting a lot of extra words into what I have said and creating more than necessary after I explained to the OP why I said what I did! Yes, I'm 65 and started hunting when I was 5 years old and took one of the first NRA safety courses ever offered. I took another course with my stepson many years after that and the rules hadn't changed in all those years and still haven't. I have not said I have never screwed up, but I have also never bent the rules for when I pulled the trigger like one of you suggested. I have also never said I don't condone the use of buckshot. I used it some, as well as slugs, years ago here in southern MI before muzzleloaders became popular and were legalized down here where centerfire rifles aren't allowed for deer hunting. All I have stated in my posts is to be sure of your target, surroundings and background, as well as patterning your gun and knowing what it will do with a particular load. All of those things are fundamentals that ANYONE should have learned BEFORE they go into the field. Sorry that I take this so seriously and have continued posting on it. I feel even sorrier that the kid says all he is interested in is killing the deer because that's not what the outdoor experience is all about! I'm also sorry for anyone else who has come on this thread and told him he did a good job just because he killed his first deer. I thought I ended this thread with that last post trying to briefly explain to him why I posted and wishing him happy holidays. Now I get up this AM and you guys have come on here and are the ones busting balls over nothing that I even said or insinuated!!! Let the thread die, because if the OP and those that have read this thread did not understand the message by now then it's probably useless!

Right on target with this.
If this was my kid I would have been happy it got his first deer but then we would have had a little conversation about shot selection. Because if the buck shot hadn't luckily hit that second deer in the spine a long track job would have started and most likely ended with a wounded lost deer.

Redkid, What choke you using that's pretty big spread of pellets especially if it was 00 buck.There are 9 pellets in a load.

One question redkid, Would you take that same shot again?

I agree with everything except the 9 pellets in a load. My Federal 3.5" mag OO buckshot has 18 pellets, so having a few outside of the original target deer doesn't sound so unheard of. Legal or otherwise, taking ONE deer at a time is the PROPER way to hunt deer.

That would be for a 3/4 oz load .33 diameter.

He stated at 25 yards his pattern was from shoulder to rump on a deer and a few also hit the other doe. I just think that is a pretty wide pattern even for 15 pellets, think I would try a tighter choke in my gun.JMO

This is the best post I've seen on this topic. I agree with everything here. If he learned that his shot wasn't ideal and will make changes next time around than it was a good learning experience. We all learn from out mistakes and if this new hunter did then all is forgiven. For me, there is no situation that it is ethical to take two deer with one shot. Most likely one of those deer will not be hit in the ideal spot and will suffer more than it should.

Exactly Fastetti, I'll ask another question to everyone reading this. If this was your son or a new hunter you were mentoring, what would be the first thing you would say to them after you congratulated them on their first deer?

I admit I rushed the shot . I rushed because last time that deer walked to the corn pile I watched them and they never gave me a decent shot. So I didn't shoot at one. The reason I shot is because the deer were perfectly broadside. The pattern was really wide because I hit the other doe that was at least a good 5 foot behinds the other one. I didn't think I would hit both of them and I wasn't trying to. There are 20 pellets in a load.

Lesson learned! Think safety and when to shoot/not shoot at all times and you'll be fine! Killing is the end result when we hunt, but it's what leads up to it that matters most. Happy holidays to all!

After reading the first few posts it reminded me of why I haven't been back here since Feb. with all the bashing and so called professional advice. This guy has plenty to be happy about by killing two deer with one shot. Who is to say that buckshot is not lethal and effective. I don't use it, but I sure don't condemn anyone who does. I have killed several in the past with it as it was the only legal method available to me. Let's all deer hunt together as a group and stand behind one another.

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Amen to that! There are enough anti's out here to piss down their backs without doing that to each other.

A tighter choke often deforms buckshot and makes the pattern wider....

"Roll up your sleeves, we've got some deer to skin...Now watch closely as I show you how to gut a deer, you're going to do the next one"....

No way in Hades would I bust a youngsters bubble after a successful hunt...Maybe a few days later, I'd pull out my gun to "check it"...In doing so, we would do the same with his...It would be more of a conversation about tightening up his group than "You shouldn't have taken that shot"...

I like your post there nchawkeye. That is the way to do it.