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RaySendero 12-12-2012 02:34 PM

Topgun 3006,

Check those charts with a balistic calculator a couple of different ways:

1) 30-06 with 150 Sierra Pro Hunter, scope 1.5" above line of sight and zeroed at 25 yards = 3" high at 100 yards.

2) 30-06 with 150 Sierra Pro Hunter, scope 1.5" above line of sight and zeroed at 100 yards = 3/4" low at 25 yards.

zrexpilot 12-12-2012 06:15 PM

untill you actualy shoot the gun at both distances your guessing, those charts have been wrong for me, 25 yds has always been damn near the scope height low even though the calculator tells me different, 18 yds and its exactly the scope height low

Topgun 3006 12-12-2012 06:21 PM


Originally Posted by RaySendero (Post 4015525)
Topgun 3006,

Check those charts with a balistic calculator a couple of different ways:

1) 30-06 with 150 Sierra Pro Hunter, scope 1.5" above line of sight and zeroed at 25 yards = 3" high at 100 yards.

2) 30-06 with 150 Sierra Pro Hunter, scope 1.5" above line of sight and zeroed at 100 yards = 3/4" low at 25 yards.

I wouldn't argue with those figures and that sure isn't the 12" difference between 25 and 100 yards like one poster has stated!

Champlain Islander 12-13-2012 03:03 AM

Just thinking out loud. I wonder what the difference between 25 and 100 would be if the rifle was sighted in to zero at 350 yds?

nodog 12-13-2012 03:48 AM


Originally Posted by Topgun 3006 (Post 4011589)
Nope, he MISSED 8 deer in a row and now the guy on Meds in SC says he missed 10 because he can't control himself when he has a gun in his hands. I hope they both stay the hell where they are and don't do any outstate hunts where there might be a chance of running into either one of them, LOL! Wouldn't you think that after missing a few deer that you would check your equipment out thoroughly, rather than wait until the count got to ten for God's sake!!! These kind of people are what gives hunters and hunting a bad name.

Way beyond "bad". So far beyond bad I don't believe the story. Grammar and spelling are too good for a box of rocks.

Scoobiedoo6559 12-13-2012 04:54 AM


Originally Posted by Ridge Runner (Post 4011522)
and this is safe? don't wanna be around this if loaded weapons are involved
RR

I'm with Ridge Runner esp being a RN. I highly suggest for your safety and everyone else's that you seriously consider taking up golf instead. Really. I wouldn't never advocate that anyone go hunting while feeling 'doped up' on Xanax and such an extreme anxiety issue. While Xanax is only for anxiety - if someone's dosage is THAT high - I would not mix that with guns or shooting. You not only could get so anxious or nervous that someone gets shot by accident but you could drop the gun and have it go off on yourself, fall out of a treestand, etc.

Charlie P 12-13-2012 06:30 AM

when I took up hunting they didn't tell me there would be math involved.

fishguts 12-13-2012 06:46 AM

[quote=Cypress32;4011413]
Took it over to the processing plant and said my dad shot it cause I wasnt about to claim him. quote]

Never hated myself for shooting a deer, but I'd certainly hate myself for throwing someone else under the bus. Your own father? Man are you a piece of work...

Dang it. I took the bait too. Good fishing, by the way.

Topgun 3006 12-13-2012 07:15 AM


Originally Posted by Charlie P (Post 4015754)
when I took up hunting they didn't tell me there would be math involved.

That is funny as he** and I don't care who you are, LOL!!!

Topgun 3006 12-13-2012 07:28 AM

Here is a pretty good short read on bullet trajectory, especially the last one on drop, that may be of help to some regarding this thread:

To understand what happens from muzzle to target and why–or at least to the extent we hunters need to know–here are some definitions and fundamental concepts one must be familiar with before all the pieces can fall into place.
DEFINITIONS
Line of Sight (LOS): A straight line out to infinity as represented by the scope’s reticle, or the sighting plane formed when the front and rear sights are aligned.

Line of Departure (LOD): Another perfectly straight line, this one running down the center of the bore to infinity.

Bullet Path: The arc or trajectory of the bullet relative to LOS.

Drop: The actual drop of the bullet relative to LOD. I’m sure we’ve all heard someone describe a rifle as being so flat-shooting “the bullet doesn’t even drop for the first 100 yards!” Nonsense. Even with the flattest-shooting super magnum, the bullet starts dropping away from the LOD the moment it leaves the muzzle. A popular misconception is one that results from the use of the word “rises” in various ballistics charts. A bullet is always dropping, but it does indeed “rise” relative to the LOS. This seeming anomaly exists because with the scope being positioned above the bore, the only way the LOS could converge with the bullet path is to angle the sights downward. In other words, if the LOD and LOS were parallel, the bullet would exit the muzzle 11⁄2 inches low and start falling farther away from there.

Adding to the confusion is the fact that, once those sights are angled downward to converge with the bullet path at some practical distance downrange–whether it be 100, 200 or 300 yards–the bullet and LOS will have already converged once before. Whether we’re shooting a .45-70 that we want zeroed at 100 yards or a 7mm Ultra Mag at 300, this first convergence of LOS and bullet path occurs between 20 to 40 yards from the muzzle.

Read more in this link if you like and look at the graph at the top showing the terms and how they relate in the description: http://www.rifleshootermag.com/2010/...#ixzz2EwxDYFkS


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