Dear Dog Hunters
#31
IMHO, its only a matter of time. This deer dog alliance will soon self implode. The more and more people move down from the northeast, the closer we will get to Sunday Hunting and deer dog hunting being banned. Yankees (no offense, just using it as a regional phrase) love hunting on Sunday and hate deer dogs.
#32
Fork Horn
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 189
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From: Promise land ,KY
Yankee's I thought I was the only one left using that term of endearment
#33
IMHO, its only a matter of time. This deer dog alliance will soon self implode. The more and more people move down from the northeast, the closer we will get to Sunday Hunting and deer dog hunting being banned. Yankees (no offense, just using it as a regional phrase) love hunting on Sunday and hate deer dogs.
#34
I never said I would let my dogs run on someone's property. I always ran dogs on large tracts of public land so that was never an issue. Where my lease is now there are a few clubs south and east of me that do run dogs and that doesn't bother me at all.
#35
Fork Horn
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 102
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From: Florence, SC
rediculous to throw someone in jail who shoot a dog that is on their private property ruining their hunting... Should be encuraged in my opinion. Only happened to me twice, once a rotwhiler chased a doe within about twenty feet during muzzel loader and he didn't fare to well. The other time was a guy rabbit hunting with a weiner dog... I couldn't have shot if I wanted too because I was laughing too hard... weiner dogs are funny :-)
Also the people that dog hunt where I live are total *******s. Whenever we used to catch a dog or two on our property and see trucks on the road obviously looking for the dogs we would flag them down and ask if these were them. Not once did they ever say thanks for finding my dog or even apoligize for letting them get onto my land.
One guy and his buddies even drove onto my land last year and I said May I help you. I knew what they wanted but I figured Id at least be polite. When I said no way in hell could he could drive all over my place looking for his dogs, and probably shoot anything they saw as well, they all got pissed and 3 of them jumped out of the truck and started to get mouthy. I could see 2 of them had sidearms. I went to walk back inside and they said are you gonna be a ***** and call the cops. I said nope and instead got my AR-15 and loaded the double drum magazine and walked back outside. They wised up very fast and decided to leave. Sorry but threatnening me on my land while armed is not smart on your part.
This farm has been in our family since the civil war and I be damned if a bunch of rednecks that probably never finished middle school are gonna ruin my hunting. I shoot feral cats all day long so Im adding trespassing deer dogs to that list as well. I have tried calling animal control to deal with the stray dogs that show up at my house and they say they will come but they never do. So Im done dealing with these dogs. As much as I love dogs this is my land and I pay a lot every year to keep it in hunting condition. No one is going to ruin my hunting.
Last edited by thomasmgp; 11-27-2012 at 02:01 PM.
#37
Fork Horn
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 157
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From: Florida
I dont hunt deer with dogs but do hunt bear and coon with hounds. If I caught ANYONE threating my dogs I would treat them the same way I would someone threatening my kids. The states that I hunt bear in it is leagle to cross private property in order to retrive your hounds if they cross private property and tree something on it, that doesnt mean you get to shoot it but you have the right to go there to get your dogs. The only person that can leagally put a dog down, even if it is harrassing wildlife, is a law enforcement officer, such as a game warden.
Last edited by Jim Burns; 11-27-2012 at 02:43 PM.
#38
I don't think hunting deer with dogs is a lazy way to hunt from the perspective of physical work, especially if you're the handler. I think it's lazy from a predatory standpoint. That doesn't mean there aren't plenty of hunters who don't use dogs who are predatorily lazy too, because there are. Instead of getting out there and learning the movements of the deer, doing the work it takes to get in the right place at the right time without being detected, doing the work it takes to trek in long distances while sweating your balls off and then having a way to stay warm when it is time to stay still, or doing the work it takes to go one-on-one with a deer and silently track him down by following his sign and killing him in his bedroom, you simply let the dogs rouse the deer and wait off their escape routes. How much do you even have to consider wind direction when the deer are actively being chased?
As far as it being "legal" to retrieve your dogs from private land, let me inform you that "legal" is not the barometer for what's right. I can legally be an a-hole to my neighbor 365 days a year, but it doesn't make it right. So if you can't control your domesticated animals the way every other citizen is required to and keep them from going onto other people's land, it ain't right.
But, as others have stated, you can't expect dog hunters to think like this or comprehend that their methods are invasive, disruptive, overbearing and inconsiderate. That's right. It's inconsiderate, especially when you are in the minority, to take your dogs and literally run them from one side of public land to the other, basically running through every area, and have your standers mosey on in well after daybreak and tramp through the woods without a care in the world. You are a minority forcing your way of hunting on everyone else in the woods. Comprende????
And I don't care if I "may" see a buck or two that I normally wouldn't see. That isn't the point, but I wouldn't expect dog hunters to get that. I normally wouldn't have a beagle or a hound come within ten feet of me, circle me over and over while howling its head off, either!
I hope the deer develop enough of a defensive nature to realize that these little pooches pose no real threat to them, and start stomping and gaffing them to death!
As far as it being "legal" to retrieve your dogs from private land, let me inform you that "legal" is not the barometer for what's right. I can legally be an a-hole to my neighbor 365 days a year, but it doesn't make it right. So if you can't control your domesticated animals the way every other citizen is required to and keep them from going onto other people's land, it ain't right.
But, as others have stated, you can't expect dog hunters to think like this or comprehend that their methods are invasive, disruptive, overbearing and inconsiderate. That's right. It's inconsiderate, especially when you are in the minority, to take your dogs and literally run them from one side of public land to the other, basically running through every area, and have your standers mosey on in well after daybreak and tramp through the woods without a care in the world. You are a minority forcing your way of hunting on everyone else in the woods. Comprende????
And I don't care if I "may" see a buck or two that I normally wouldn't see. That isn't the point, but I wouldn't expect dog hunters to get that. I normally wouldn't have a beagle or a hound come within ten feet of me, circle me over and over while howling its head off, either!
I hope the deer develop enough of a defensive nature to realize that these little pooches pose no real threat to them, and start stomping and gaffing them to death!
#40
I don't think hunting deer with dogs is a lazy way to hunt from the perspective of physical work, especially if you're the handler. I think it's lazy from a predatory standpoint. That doesn't mean there aren't plenty of hunters who don't use dogs who are predatorily lazy too, because there are. Instead of getting out there and learning the movements of the deer, doing the work it takes to get in the right place at the right time without being detected, doing the work it takes to trek in long distances while sweating your balls off and then having a way to stay warm when it is time to stay still, or doing the work it takes to go one-on-one with a deer and silently track him down by following his sign and killing him in his bedroom, you simply let the dogs rouse the deer and wait off their escape routes. How much do you even have to consider wind direction when the deer are actively being chased?
As far as it being "legal" to retrieve your dogs from private land, let me inform you that "legal" is not the barometer for what's right. I can legally be an a-hole to my neighbor 365 days a year, but it doesn't make it right. So if you can't control your domesticated animals the way every other citizen is required to and keep them from going onto other people's land, it ain't right.
But, as others have stated, you can't expect dog hunters to think like this or comprehend that their methods are invasive, disruptive, overbearing and inconsiderate. That's right. It's inconsiderate, especially when you are in the minority, to take your dogs and literally run them from one side of public land to the other, basically running through every area, and have your standers mosey on in well after daybreak and tramp through the woods without a care in the world. You are a minority forcing your way of hunting on everyone else in the woods. Comprende????
And I don't care if I "may" see a buck or two that I normally wouldn't see. That isn't the point, but I wouldn't expect dog hunters to get that. I normally wouldn't have a beagle or a hound come within ten feet of me, circle me over and over while howling its head off, either!
I hope the deer develop enough of a defensive nature to realize that these little pooches pose no real threat to them, and start stomping and gaffing them to death!
As far as it being "legal" to retrieve your dogs from private land, let me inform you that "legal" is not the barometer for what's right. I can legally be an a-hole to my neighbor 365 days a year, but it doesn't make it right. So if you can't control your domesticated animals the way every other citizen is required to and keep them from going onto other people's land, it ain't right.
But, as others have stated, you can't expect dog hunters to think like this or comprehend that their methods are invasive, disruptive, overbearing and inconsiderate. That's right. It's inconsiderate, especially when you are in the minority, to take your dogs and literally run them from one side of public land to the other, basically running through every area, and have your standers mosey on in well after daybreak and tramp through the woods without a care in the world. You are a minority forcing your way of hunting on everyone else in the woods. Comprende????
And I don't care if I "may" see a buck or two that I normally wouldn't see. That isn't the point, but I wouldn't expect dog hunters to get that. I normally wouldn't have a beagle or a hound come within ten feet of me, circle me over and over while howling its head off, either!
I hope the deer develop enough of a defensive nature to realize that these little pooches pose no real threat to them, and start stomping and gaffing them to death!


