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This is a must read because i need help!!!
I hunt about 65 yards from my property line. Ive never stepped foot on the property that im by. One day last week the property owner next to me seen me checking my camera cause he was on his quad. He stared at me the whole time as he drove by. He is not a hunter, he is actually against it. Anyways, yesterday i got up in my stand and i could smell something that shouldnt belong in the woods. Almost like a chemical of some sort. When my morning hunt was done at 11 oclock i got down out of my stand and found the main source where the smell was coming from, and i could not believe what i found. He had put deer repellent all over my salt lick, and all around my main opening where i hunt. Now i know this was deer repellent or "deer-x" because i used to work for a company where we used it on peoples lawns. I raked up all the leaves and the rain this week will take care of the rest, but thats not the point. What should i do? Im not the type that gets revenge on people, should i call the DNR?
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Reposition your camera to face your salt lick. Try and get him to see you are "replacing" the salt lick and hopefully he will get caught on camera. I would then approach him in an adult manner and ask that he remain on his own property and that he shouldnt be trespassing. If he plays dumb let it be, you know he will cross the line again and get caught on camera again. Once that happens, immediately inform law enforcement about someone trespassing on your property and have them come out and speak with him.
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thanks for the comment. And ive talked to him many times. He knows that im only 18. Hes in his 60's!
I think he gets mad when i leave with deer. I dunno. He seems like a nice guy. His wife is friends with my aunt even! im just in complete and utter devastation on why he would do this. Thanks for the help. |
He did it, because he is a small petty man.
He can't stand that others don't believe as he does. He is bound to make your time miserable. Hoping to drive you from the area. |
Originally Posted by deerslyer11
(Post 3997260)
thanks for the comment. And ive talked to him many times. He knows that im only 18. Hes in his 60's!
I think he gets mad when i leave with deer. I dunno. He seems like a nice guy. His wife is friends with my aunt even! im just in complete and utter devastation on why he would do this. Thanks for the help. I would just move but it isn't that easy as I am disabled and have to hunt out of a 5x5 shack. I have hunted there for 15 yrs before this Moron moved in next door. I still get deer and am not quiting because of him. I do however carry a .44 mag just in case he attempts to cross the line and assault me. Now days you can't be too safe! I just wanted to let you know there are other hunters suffering the same experiences as you. Good luck and Good Hunting! |
Get proof. Then prosecute. Once you get him once, any future actions will automatically point to him, with stiffer repercussions. An inexpensive DPS Truth cam by Primos ($70), positioned close enough, set at 5 second between shots will do for daytime. Put black tape over the red light indicator and hide the camera well.
A regular flash game camera will be needed at night. The golden rule of hunting these days is NEVER LET YOUR NEIGHBORS KNOW WHERE AND HOW YOU ARE HUNTING! I had neighbors pull some "crap" on me this year too! In my case I don't think it was an antihunter, but rather a jealous hunter, which is a lot less of a problem. |
get a pic of him doing it and call the game warden. There are laws against hunter harassment
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I had a problem with a neighbor about a different situation but like you they were doing things that were not legal. One call about what they were doing followed by a a visit from the authorities I never had the problem again and surprisingly they were very nice to me after that.
Make sure your property line is posted according to regulations so that there is no doubt that he is knowingly trespassing. Yea I know he knows but if you catch him doing it again you want it to be so solid he has no way out on any technicalities. In addition it might be worth a call to your game commission. In PA it is illegal to harass anyone who is legally hunting. Not sure if pouring that stuff on the ground fits that category but I think that the more you impress on him that you are not going to take it the sooner he decides to give up. Hell I would even check with the local environmental dept if you catch him spilling stuff on your property. They might be obligated to checking out dumping of an unknown liquid on your property. The cost to determine if it is hazardous or not and any removal they may require would be placed on him. 20 years in that business and I can tell you that it would not be cheap. I think I would shoot at any game that was near by every time I saw him anywhere near the shed that you hunt out of. |
What would I do? What would I do? WHAT WOULD I DO?!?!
Well I tell ya I'd find that SOB and I'd.....I'd march right over there and I would......I'd get him right in front of me......I'd look him right in the eye and I would......I would.......I would.... Well just never mind. You don't want or need to know what I would do. It wouldn't be pretty though I will tell you that! I don't know if his age would come into it or not but he would receive a good attitude adjustment and be told exactly why he was the lucky recipient. But I wouldn't be dumb enough to do it myself - that's what friends are for. I would speak with him about it once and only once. Let him know you won't tolerate it one bit in the future and if he wants to play games that's fine. Point out that everyone gets a turn in a game and you'll take your turn too. If he keeps it up - call your boys. Sometimes a good busted lip and a few black eyes changes people perspectives and attitudes. Doing whatever he does on his property is one thing (although it could still be hunter harassment) but when he starts coming on your property...... |
Thanks everyone for taking your time to read my issue. I will take all of your ideas and put them into one. Im going to try talking to him once. Let him know that i will not take that sort of harassment. Thanks again. I just dont understand why he would do anything like this. F****** people these days!
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On second thought, you might want to relocate farther away. 65 yds is pretty close - plenty close for a wounded deer to wander onto. And this guy is not going to allow you to collect the deer, even if it drops 5 ft over his line. So then you must let the deer die and rot or trespass - and then he can have you prosecuted. In most states, you do not have the right to enter his property to collect a deer you hit. Not sure about MI.
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In michigan it is illegal to interfere in someones lawful pursuit of game.
I,d get it in writing and present it to him.and let him know i want to get along,but never mess with my hunting. For a half of beef i,ll shoot less deer. I have no problem except disease and such from neighboring properties. Always try to be a good neighbor and it works for me though i,m not a warm fuzzy people person. A friends property i hunt went sour with former friends who are neighbors feuding. Now neither allowed on each others property. Stupid if a wounded deer crosses line. |
yep hang a cam in the trees facing down on your lick. he will be back. no sense in confronting him until you have the proof and then i would let the cops take over. prosecute for tresspassing and for interfering with your hunt
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Follow the advise of the fellow form members id say their spot on and some roofing nails in his drive way lol.
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Hey man, sorry you have to go through this. It's no wonder the younger generation don't find hunting appealing. Don't be affraid to contact a conservation officer and let them know what's been happening. At least they will have a complaint on file if it gets worse. Maybe the officer could go over and have a talk with the guy and that would put an end to it. Sometimes that's all it takes instead of you taking matters into your own hands. You would be the bigger man that way. Two wrongs don't make a right!
About shooting a deer that goes on his property, all you have to do is contact a game officer and they will help you retrieve it. If they know a deer is dead or wounded on posted property, it is in their authority to help you retrieve it. Good luck. |
Call the DNR. Report hunter harrasment. A possibility they might have a talk with him.
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Get a slingshot & moth balls and launch them onto his place to run the deer outta there & back onto your place. Eye for an eye & you never stepped foot on his property.
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Yeah im going to try and get him on camera first, then if i have no luck, im going to call the DNR about it. Thanks everyone!
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Call a conservation officer. Hunter harrassment is a crime, at least where I hunt.
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"Make sure your property line is posted according to regulations so that there is no doubt that he is knowingly trespassing. Yea I know he knows but if you catch him doing it again you want it to be so solid he has no way out on any technicalities." -
Definately great advice. Cover all bases and then prosecute. Here in Indiana there are laws in place to protect hunters from being harrassed while in the legal pursuit of wild game. I feel for you man. That would totally piss me off too. If someone came onto my property and did something like that I would probably be the one going to jail. But don't do anything rash. You don't want to lower yourself to that a$$holes standards. Hope you get things worked out. Until then hang in there dude. |
give him the salt lick, tell him there are cameras...dont say ya got him on cam, just let his mind race. call the dnr, and make a report, that way, when ya get him on cam, they have no choice but to file charges. i feel ya matt, but that just gets
you in trouble lol |
sounds like a great opportunity for a flaming pile of dog crap... If he is riding to your spot on a 4 wheeler, find the spot and take a picture, block the trail but make it look like something just fell in the trail so he won't know you intentionally blocked it. When you come back and see that he moved it you'll know he's been there... Makes a good spot for a claymore too since he has to spend some time removing the road block... :-) Or just find the trail is he is taking to get on the property and block it with barbed wire. In Kentucky there is a big different between wandering onto someone else's property and cutting a fence to get on it with a 4 wheeler. Either way I wouldn't try talking to him, if he is that against hunting you are not going to change his mind. take the legal route or just try to catch him red handed and send a sympathy card when he comes up missing :-)
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My advice, head to the hardware store & purchase enough 'No Trespassing' signs to insure that the messege cant be missed. Then head out to the property line & post them securely. Id also hang cameras to insure that you can identify the guilty party. At that point, Id go to this man house & confront him man to man. Being as youre 18, it wouldnt be a bad idea to take your father with you. But I would simply state to this individual that you suspect him of trespassing & if you suspect anyone of trespassing again, the authorities will be contacted. Also, aways keep a calm, level head when confronting folks of this nature & wait for them to become the emotional one in the matter. Hostility is usually a pretty clear indicator of guilt & if he does become hostile, contact the authorities immediately so the issue doesnt escalate. But any way you decide to handle this situation, in no way would I let this issue go unchecked any longer. Good luck to ya.
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Originally Posted by On_Point
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My advice, head to the hardware store & purchase enough 'No Trespassing' signs to insure that the messege cant be missed. Then head out to the property line & post them securely. Id also hang cameras to insure that you can identify the guilty party. At that point, Id go to this man house & confront him man to man. Being as youre 18, it wouldnt be a bad idea to take your father with you. But I would simply state to this individual that you suspect him of trespassing & if you suspect anyone of trespassing again, the authorities will be contacted. Also, aways keep a calm, level head when confronting folks of this nature & wait for them to become the emotional one in the matter. Hostility is usually a pretty clear indicator of guilt & if he does become hostile, contact the authorities immediately so the issue doesnt escalate. But any way you decide to handle this situation, in no way would I let this issue go unchecked any longer. Good luck to ya.
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Well I know what I would do but I am not 18 so I think the best thing for you is to find another spot. This guy is one of those that unless you can put the fear into him and not get caught it will never end so it is best not to start. He is wrong and not everyone is like that. I have had my share of stolen gear and ruined hunts it is not right but what can you do! Don't give up young brother just move on and enjoy your right and the thrill of the hunt. Sorry my friend! :(
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Thanks for all the advice form everyone!!!!!
Im going to keep on hunting the property but in a different location. Because i dont even see deer now because of him. I was hunting a 8 and 10 point but they havent been around since saturday but i know they are still alive cause i still get pictures. But i know where they go to feed and bed. I just liked the spot im at now cause of the scenery. Thanks again everyone. Im going to post the poperty every other tree. lol |
First hang no trespassing signs on the property line. Then position your camera in the direction you assume he's coming in. Hopefully you will get him on camera on your property. When you get him, go talk to him and tell him what you did and that you have the pics. Tell him he has 2 options. 1 he can stay off your land. Or 2 you will have the authorities arrest him for trespassing.
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