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vabeachguy 07-28-2012 07:49 AM

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A buddy of mine found this buck tangled on a 10ft barb wire fence, sent me the rack. I didnt take a tape measure to it but i can't even wrap my fingers around the base..like a 1 inch gap between my two fingerpoints, the inside spread is roughly 24" so it's not that wide of a rack....but VERY unique from what I'm used to seeing around here in VA and Eastern Shore area (avg BIG buck size I've seen 8-10 pointer 200 -250lb). My old man guesses this was probably in the mid to upper 200 pound range..maybe more...
The rack - 24 points counted.
I gave it to my old man as a birthday present for his "trophy room", he's a hardcore hunter @ 70 years old!
He didn't shoot it...but it's a great conversation piece...he's the only guy in his club with a non-typical deer for showcase lol.

...OR could this be an elk or another type deer other than whitetail???
watcha think?!
:deer:

browtine7 07-28-2012 09:09 AM

Looks like a elk rack

bdydrp97s10 07-28-2012 09:49 AM

I think elk rack possibly.. I dont think Whitetails rack lean back that far

vabeachguy 07-28-2012 10:33 AM

the skull itself is nearly identical to a whitetail skull (center ridge crack line, eye sockets, nasal, teeth etc.), but side by side to his other whitetail skulls/racks this guy is a neanderthal.
I myself nor my dad have the knowledge of what a elk skull is in to comparison to a whitetail...and also Google images that I've seen of elk the racks themselves look like a darker bone color than this.
Not trying to be argumentative or anything but I am just trying to put input on what I've found and would like to hear from others who have more experience/knowledge. :hail:

smm274 07-28-2012 01:01 PM

Brow tines look more like an elk rack.

Mickey Finn 07-28-2012 07:01 PM

Fallow deer. A nice one.

vabeachguy 07-28-2012 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mickey Finn (Post 3955579)
Fallow deer. A nice one.

I made another post of this in the Big Game Hunting section..reason for not actually knowing what type of deer this was..but another guy (skiftcky) also thinks it's a Fallow, and after looking at some Google images I'm leaning towards yours and his opinions on it. :woot:

http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/big-...type-deer.html

Not sure how to delete or move this thread to appropriate section...if a admin could help me out with this I'd appreciate it ... since the census would be leaning towards not a whitetail :happy0001:

Mickey Finn 07-29-2012 04:02 AM


Originally Posted by vabeachguy (Post 3955612)
I made another post of this in the Big Game Hunting section..reason for not actually knowing what type of deer this was..but another guy (skiftcky) also thinks it's a Fallow, and after looking at some Google images I'm leaning towards yours and his opinions on it. :woot:

http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/big-...type-deer.html

Not sure how to delete or move this thread to appropriate section...if a admin could help me out with this I'd appreciate it ... since the census would be leaning towards not a whitetail :happy0001:

I wouldn't worry about posting in the whitetail section. Though I was looking for Ontario deer hunting stories when I clicked on Canadian... It's a nice one, and interesting to whitetail hunters, I think. We have a few running around in Michigan. They are interesting for more than their tremendous antlers. They can eat grass for instances, and are immune to CWD.

ATB

Phil from Maine 07-29-2012 08:56 AM

I can not help but to believe it is a whitetail that is a giant non-typical rack. Antlers can grow quite strange looking at times. Although this very well could be a cross with some other member of the deer family.. I do not know what other than perhaps a moose..

Yeah after re-reading the post and more research it clearly is no whitetail deer..

mr.mc54 07-29-2012 09:16 AM

I'd like to see a side view close up. This skull and antlers just look fishy to me. (kinda synthetic maybe?) or could be a fallow as said:rolleye0011:

Vermont_hunter 07-29-2012 10:35 AM

looks like a fallow to me as well, although most fallow bucks have more mass though...

vabeachguy 07-29-2012 01:24 PM

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After reading a bunch of posts of people mentioning fallow I did some Googling and I am positive it is a fallow deer.

Here is a link to some nice fallow bucks that look very similar to the rack my old man has in his possession.
http://www.shuttermoments.ca/moments/moments04.htm
picture is from a farm in BC area

And also did a search on average weight of fallow and found this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallow_Deer

Which it pretty much says the largest bucks can weigh in at 330 lbs. and also mentions different types of fallow...which I would strongly believe it would have been the "Melanistic (Black) : All year black shading to greyish-brown. No light-colored tail patch or spots." just by looking at rack and build of the bucks in the first link above from BC. :happy0001:

Thanks to all for your time and thoughts!!

(me):hail: --- (you guys):party0005::woot::party::woot::party0005:

fastetti 07-29-2012 01:25 PM

It's a fallow deer, a pretty good one as well. They are in general the same size as a whitetail which is why the skull looks so similar. Google Fallow deer and you'll be able to see a lot of similarities.

Rob in VT 07-29-2012 03:23 PM

That's what I thought when I first saw the pic was a Fallow deer.

WNYhunter 07-29-2012 05:32 PM

Yea its a fallow. and it was found in a 10' high barb wire fence? be carefull with this one, thats an exotic off a ranch I bet. And the owner is probably not to happy someone else has it. Just saying

vabeachguy 07-29-2012 06:01 PM

:popcorn:

Originally Posted by WNYhunter (Post 3955848)
Yea its a fallow. and it was found in a 10' high barb wire fence? be carefull with this one, thats an exotic off a ranch I bet. And the owner is probably not to happy someone else has it. Just saying

My friend is a friend of the property owner and they were cruising around his property and stumbled on this, which was basically all bones with little carcass so he let him take the rack for whatever reason, which in turn he sent to me for a trade of VA venison jerky (small USPS flat rate box full).
He had it stuffed in the corner of his garage for sometime, his wife didn't want nothing to do with it in HER house.
So he sent it to a place where it would be more appreciated..my old man's house.
He honestly believed it was just a big whitetail. And so did I and my dad at first..until I came to you guys..the real experts...on what this guy really is.

So...yea..that's my story pretty much off the top of my head...:popcorn:

All good. :woot:

mr.mc54 07-30-2012 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by vabeachguy (Post 3955858)
:popcorn:

My friend is a friend of the property owner and they were cruising around his property and stumbled on this, which was basically all bones with little carcass so he let him take the rack for whatever reason, which in turn he sent to me for a trade of VA venison jerky (small USPS flat rate box full).
He had it stuffed in the corner of his garage for sometime, his wife didn't want nothing to do with it in HER house.
So he sent it to a place where it would be more appreciated..my old man's house.
He honestly believed it was just a big whitetail. And so did I and my dad at first..until I came to you guys..the real experts...on what this guy really is.

So...yea..that's my story pretty much off the top of my head...:popcorn:

All good. :woot:


And this came from a (HIGH) fence in Canada, A ten foot barb wire fence? If you said Texas, I would believe you!:biggrin:

Mickey Finn 07-30-2012 08:59 AM


Originally Posted by mr.mc54 (Post 3955967)
And this came from a (HIGH) fence in Canada, A ten foot barb wire fence? If you said Texas, I would believe you!:biggrin:

We have them here in Michigan. They just outlawed Wild Boars. But, deer etc. Are still around. Some of these get loose, one way or another.

ATB


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