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Cow problems
Well hunting season has been open for nearly a month here in fl and im still having the problem since i first hung the feeder.
The first thing i did was run one strand of barbed wire and the cows went right through it without any problems. The next thing i did was run two strands of electric wire and the majority of the cows learned to stay away, but theres one brave cow who runs under it to get inside. After i realized that idea failed, i ran my two strands lower and ran criss crossing strands to make an x. I really thought that would work, but the cow busted through it and took down 3 sections of the fence. I need something that can keep the cows out, without keeping out the deer or the hogs. Anybody have any tips? I was thinking of putting 5-6 inch pvc in the ground and running electrified steel pipes across them instead of the t-posts and electric fence wire, because the pipes wouldnt flex and allow the cow to run under it like the wire does. ![]() Not the best picture, but you can see what damage has been done. |
yer close...3 rows of barb wire...then tie a small piece from the top to the middle and then to the bottom, this will keep it from separating..we use 3 rows, it works fine, and the deer jump right in.
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Originally Posted by halfbakedi420
(Post 3894972)
yer close...3 rows of barb wire...then tie a small piece from the top to the middle and then to the bottom, this will keep it from separating..we use 3 rows, it works fine, and the deer jump right in.
These cows werent a problem until the owner of them started bringing his family/friends and hand feeding them from the back of his truck. Now they follow you around anytime your walking and when you chase them off they just come back. |
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That is a problem.
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shoot em and make burger.
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That fence has more holes than swiss cheese - lol :)
Looks like it needs to be re-done or your always going to have issues. Wire needs to be very tight - 3 strand minimum - 4 strand preferred.... Deer won't have a problem jumping it. If your concerned you can create a 'crossing point' for them between a couple of sections of fence by taking the 3rd and 4th row then tying them together with a small piece of fencing wire... http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...hvnQqhRumNRNCw |
I suggest a good four or five row taut barbed wire fence with a single or double strand electric. Make sure all the barbed and electric fencing wires are taut, and the electric fence wire is not right next to a barbed wire. If you use a single strand electric with a four or five row barbed wire fence, try the single stand electric wire at about 40 inches off the ground.
First, how powerful of an electric fencer do you have? Second, make sure the electric fence is not shorted out someplace. If you have a good electric fence charger, the cattle will not want anything to do with it. http://www.tractorsupply.com/zareba-...harger-3604497 |
Originally Posted by trickworm863
(Post 3895000)
Someone else on the property tried that and the cows would just push at it til its loose.
These cows werent a problem until the owner of them started bringing his family/friends and hand feeding them from the back of his truck. Now they follow you around anytime your walking and when you chase them off they just come back. |
Originally Posted by sconnyhunter
(Post 3895040)
shoot em and make burger.
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Originally Posted by vapahunter
(Post 3895184)
Please don't even suggest this to anyone. All it would do is to take one person to say they say it here and thought it was OK. Yes I know idiots but there are many out there.
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3 strands of barb wire straight and tight will keep the cows out. I do this on one of the farms I hunt and it always keep them out of my food plots.
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[QUOTE=SouthDakotaHunter;3895048]That fence has more holes than swiss cheese - lol :)
Looks like it needs to be re-done or your always going to have issues. Wire needs to be very tight - 3 strand minimum - 4 strand preferred.... Deer won't have a problem jumping it. If your concerned you can create a 'crossing point' for them between a couple of sections of fence by taking the 3rd and 4th row then tying them together with a small piece of fencing wire... http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...hvnQqhRumNRNCw That electric fence was tight, until the cows visited. I twisted the wires close to the tposts together to tighten it and the wires where it crosses and makes an x. I dont want to take it too low, because then the hogs wont be able to go in either. I wouldnt mind feeding the baby cows because they will leave one the herd leaves, but i dont want the bigger cows to be able to get in.
Originally Posted by country1
(Post 3895060)
I suggest a good four or five row taut barbed wire fence with a single or double strand electric. Make sure all the barbed and electric fencing wires are taut, and the electric fence wire is not right next to a barbed wire. If you use a single strand electric with a four or five row barbed wire fence, try the single stand electric wire at about 40 inches off the ground.
First, how powerful of an electric fencer do you have? Second, make sure the electric fence is not shorted out someplace. If you have a good electric fence charger, the cattle will not want anything to do with it. http://www.tractorsupply.com/zareba-...harger-3604497 Thats the charger i have. I have to have something solar powered because there is no power to the property. I feel like if it was a constant shock instead of a variable shock, it would work better. |
ohhh, that aint barb wire?
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Originally Posted by halfbakedi420
(Post 3895357)
ohhh, that aint barb wire?
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take yer electric fence back and get the money, go buy, or ask a nearby farmer for, some barb wire...3 rows on yer tee stakes will be fine. electric wire is for the birds. believe it er not, this is how they keep cows in, here in texas anyways.
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Originally Posted by trickworm863
(Post 3895352)
http://www.tractorsupply.com/zareba-...asedPricingCmd Thats the charger i have. I have to have something solar powered because there is no power to the property. I feel like if it was a constant shock instead of a variable shock, it would work better. When we had cattle on a pasture with no electricity, we had an electric fence charger that ran off a large automotive 12V battery. This was a single strand electric with a five strand barbed wire. We would swap out the battery with a fully charged battery about every 5 days. Sorry I can't tell you the brand or model. If you go this route, put the battery on a wood block so it is not discharged by the ground. We also had the fence charger itself protected from the weather. A concern I would have is having the feeder tipped over by the livestock and having the feed container spill its contents. One thing you don't want is sick or dead livestock because they got the wrong feed, too much feed or feed that was not compatible with the other foods they eat. I suggest starting with a very sturdy four or five row barbed wire fence and add one or two rows of electric fence with a reliable electric fence charger that will provide a good jolt. |
One good electric line about 3' high with the right charger will keep the cows out and allow deer over it and hogs under it! That charger just didn't put out enough juice for a cow to even slow down, LOL!
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Originally Posted by country1
(Post 3895516)
I clicked on the link for your electric fence charger, and it said it was for pets and small animals. Not an electric fence charger for cattle or horses.
When we had cattle on a pasture with no electricity, we had an electric fence charger that ran off a large automotive 12V battery. This was a single strand electric with a five strand barbed wire. We would swap out the battery with a fully charged battery about every 5 days. Sorry I can't tell you the brand or model. If you go this route, put the battery on a wood block so it is not discharged by the ground. We also had the fence charger itself protected from the weather. A concern I would have is having the feeder tipped over by the livestock and having the feed container spill its contents. One thing you don't want is sick or dead livestock because they got the wrong feed, too much feed or feed that was not compatible with the other foods they eat. I suggest starting with a very sturdy four or five row barbed wire fence and add one or two rows of electric fence with a reliable electric fence charger that will provide a good jolt. |
feeding deer
Ok...good word on fense. Now anyone have an idea how to keep turkeys from get to an automatic corn feeder? Have lots of turkeys on property and owner wont let us hunt them...so would alfalfa be the only alternative which wouldn't be a year round deal. Turkeys clean out a release of corn in no time.
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post a picture of this tears thanks giving dinner at turkey eye level...works like a charm. :party0005:
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Are you using a grounding rod? You will need a good ground for it to work properly.
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Originally Posted by edgecam
(Post 3897336)
Are you using a grounding rod? You will need a good ground for it to work properly.
Anyways, electric rebar seems to be the best way to keep cows out, its working so far. http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/...3/594ab6e2.jpg |
bein from a cattle state, thats the funniest chit i ever seen lol.
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Looks like you need to fence off a bigger area or move your feeder away from the cows. I don't fore see too many deer going in there to feed.
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Originally Posted by edgecam
(Post 3898517)
Looks like you need to fence off a bigger area or move your feeder away from the cows. I don't fore see too many deer going in there to feed.
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are the cows wild or domestic
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Originally Posted by dejager
(Post 3899367)
are the cows wild or domestic
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if i was you i would first ask them to lock them up and if that doesnt work take a trailer and ship them away. that is if their on your privite land
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Originally Posted by dejager
(Post 3899900)
if i was you i would first ask them to lock them up and if that doesnt work take a trailer and ship them away. that is if their on your privite land
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try hunting without bait.
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