baiting ethics
#32
Typical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Free Union, VA
Posts: 750
If it's legal, decide for yourself. I have no problem with it. I stand hunt. I still hunt. I have done drives. I have taken deer by setting up where the deer are likely to run from folks running dogs. I have used sexual attractants. I have grunted deer in and used calls to try to trick a Doe into thinking her lost fawn is me.
My objective is to harvest an animal. Could I buy the meat cheaper? probably. But I want to harvest the animal myself.
My objective is to harvest an animal. Could I buy the meat cheaper? probably. But I want to harvest the animal myself.
#33
Fork Horn
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Tug Hill NY
Posts: 420
Here, baiting is illegal. Thus, like deerjacking, it is not only unethical but illlegal. I know that many states and provinces allow artificial baiting. Funny how by crossing a border, it is now legal and ethical!
As I mentioned on another thread, I have been in the situation of needing to put meat on our table, and ( not proud of it) shot my deer over artifical bait- within legal season, times, limits, etc., but still illegal jsut the same. For a long time now not needing to rely on the meat, I prefer still hunting or stands in areas I have scouted for sign and natural feed crops. I also have (and do every chance I can get) spring hunt bear in Canada over baits. I love it, its exciting and relaxing. You usuallly are able to see multiple animals of an animal not consistently found by other means. But when you decide to shoot, it is no challenge. Known distances, comfortable rests, bang. Ethically of course it is no different than bait shooting deer. It can not be denied (and the origiinator of this thread admits) that bait hunting is efficient...but not skilfull.
As I mentioned on another thread, I have been in the situation of needing to put meat on our table, and ( not proud of it) shot my deer over artifical bait- within legal season, times, limits, etc., but still illegal jsut the same. For a long time now not needing to rely on the meat, I prefer still hunting or stands in areas I have scouted for sign and natural feed crops. I also have (and do every chance I can get) spring hunt bear in Canada over baits. I love it, its exciting and relaxing. You usuallly are able to see multiple animals of an animal not consistently found by other means. But when you decide to shoot, it is no challenge. Known distances, comfortable rests, bang. Ethically of course it is no different than bait shooting deer. It can not be denied (and the origiinator of this thread admits) that bait hunting is efficient...but not skilfull.
#36
Typical Buck
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Godfrey, Il.
Posts: 814
Baiting is not legal in Il. But I got to tell ya, when bow season is coming to a close and you haven't had 1 dang shot at a deer( any deer) , it sure would be nice to try. Got a drawer full of unfilled archery tags mostly from my early days of hunting.
#37
Spike
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 24
Am I the only one that can see the diference between leagal and ethical? I do what I do and judge no one based on what they do as long is it is put to good use. Do I hunt over bait? In lower MI yep, do I kill deer? Yep. Do I up north? Yep. Do I kill deer? Yes sir! To question someones ability because they hunt over bait is crazy. You have no idea what conditions they are hunting under.
#38
Typical Buck
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Northern Michigan
Posts: 974
Hey Ryan
Am I the only one that can see the diference between leagal and ethical? I do what I do and judge no one based on what they do as long is it is put to good use. Do I hunt over bait? In lower MI yep, do I kill deer? Yep. Do I up north? Yep. Do I kill deer? Yes sir! To question someones ability because they hunt over bait is crazy. You have no idea what conditions they are hunting under.
#39
Spike
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 30
I know WNYhunter...It was gettin to quite, had to get the boys riled up about something...notice I even came back and admitted I was just messin around....and they still flock to the "bait" just like a herd of deer!....Look how many jumped up on the log and preach just like I said they would....lol
#40
Spike
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 7
We feed (bait) year round, due to the fact that we want to keep deer on our property. We have a lot of poachers in our part of the woods, so we need to go above and beyond to keep them here. Let us keep in mind that deer are smart, and baiting does not assure that you will harvest a deer. Deer do not go up to corn and say "oh look corn, I guess i will be casual about this meal and not care if anyone is trying to kill me" no they are just as cautious as they would be in a natural field of food. and on that note wouldnt planting a field be bating; since it did not exist before you planted it? just throwing that out there.