Do u believe in scent lock?
 

Who here uses scent lock and believes in the product? I for one have never used it. But I do have my little routine I do to stay as scen free as possible. Was curious if the garments help.

I will let you know after this coming season. My wife got me a scent lock outfit for Christmas, so this will be my first year using it.

I'm sure it helps reduce scent and it might help you not get busted...

Problem is, I've deer hunted almost 45 years without it and killed well
over 300 deer...So is it really necessary or a marketing ploy???

I believe that Scent Lok has made a lot of money on a product that is questionable IMHO. When they take trained bloodhounds and do unbiased testing I might consider it. Hunt the wind, it works.

I am a sceptic. I do not believe in them personally.

I have used it and got busted. Not used it and not got busted and every other combination. I am sure it helps. I am sure good hygiene and playing the wind is the most effective.

Yeah, I don't use it. I do take other precautions though. You can't just ignore the wind like some commercials assert.

This has been a highly debated topic for many years. There are many people that swear by it. I have seen many use it and get busted. The idea behind it is that the carbon absorbs your odor. The problem is that it can only absorb so much before it has to be reactivated. This is where the problem is. To reactivate the carbon in the suit you would have to burn it in a fire as your dryer is not hot enough. I am sure that brand new, it will work for a short time though.

BTW there are other products on the market that work. One of them is a sponsor of ours, though their website is not up yet. It is a technology supposedly used in space suits. Think about it, they can't bath while they are in space, so they would get pretty rank.

True and well said. But here is the problem with it working even when it's new. Despite all the handling instructions recommended for it when you get it home all of these garments are hanging out open on a rack at the store. So odds are it's already completely saturated when you buy it. And as you point out it cannot be reactivated by a household dryer. I have also seen some people online who tested this stuff. Not only did it fail to mask a persons scent from an animals nose but they also did something that most consumers would never do considering how much this stuff costs. They cut one of these suits open. The "SCANT" amount of carbon in the lining of these suits was startling to see even for a skeptic like myself who already considered them a scam. I have sprinkled more pepper on a plate of stewed squash than there was inside the thing.

No way. Your breath is the worst scent anyway and scent clothing does not help that.

No,I do not. I think it is a money maker like so much deer hunting stuff that is not needed to be a successful hunter. Learning how to hunt from a seasoned hunter is a better investment of time without all the money being spent on the latest gizzmo from savy marketers.

If you think you can fool a deers nose and you hunt up wind cause you think you can trick the deer into thinking your scent is farther away, I would say your hurting your chances...
I would also venture to say that if you spend an hour a day, or even a 1/2 hour getting ready or getting "clean" that could of been spent hunting, the hunting time lost will cost you many more bucks than the time spent washing and dressing will ever gain.
They get down wind they smell you... They know your there. Nothing you can do about except watch where you walk and play the wind.
I think all that advertising and product endorsement works... Because most guys will claim the stuff works despite all the tests proving it fails. However, I don't see any of the believers purposely setting up up wind of the deer at ground level...
Why not?
I am not saying don't shower. Just saying that it does very little to help you. I know I feel a lot better hunting right after a shower. But the skin cells we shed are not stopped by showering, or even slowed. There is no evidence at all that being clean helps or being smelly hurts or wearing some magic suit helps. Our odor is so strong to a deer that the minute difference is basically nothing to a deer...


Deer have 297 million olfactory receptors in the nose, plus a vomeronasal organ... YOU have 5 million olfactory receptors in the nose, and no vomeronasal organ...
I believe they can process the scent age by breakdown and know about how fresh it is.
Saying less scent will spook less seems like a false statement to me...
Wearing rubber boots and spraying your self with scent remover may reduce your scent to you... But to a deer that smells 100 million times better than you with a vomeronasal organ to break it down the minimized scent is still incredibly strong and reveals you were there...
Its equivalent to getting all out sprayed by a skunk at point blank range and then taking a wet rag and trying to wash the scent off you... When you get home, your wife is still going to smell it.
We are not talking about an animal that can smell "a little" better than us... We are talking about an animal that smells millions of times better.
You could take away a deers sight and hearing and it would survive. Take away his nose and he would perish. They rely on there nose more than there eyes, and ears combined.

Very Good Dan. This link to another post will explain better what Dan is saying about the skin cells we shed.
http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/bowh...cent-free.html

On another site someone said that Field and Stream had a new article about scent clothing and they said it didn't work. Another guy said an article that he read said a trial with a trained lab found every concealed person wearing scent stuff with no problem.

Shedding some light
 

Not trying to spam here just trying to shed some light on our technology and what it does for you in the woods. First, we completely agree with all of you...partially. There is no substitute for being a smart hunter and situating your stands for the wind to work in your advantage.

We always say that nothing can make up for poor hunting habits. If you pump gas in your hunting clothes or wear your activated carbon in the house, you are only hurting yourself and not utilizing the ability of the activated carbon clothing. That being said if you use good woodsmanship and store your activated carbon clothing properly, it will definitely give you an edge. I like to explain it to people that it's a tool that will buy you time and provide opportunities.

To explain what I mean imagine this scenario. You are in your treestand 30 yards from a thick swamp. There is a slight swirling wind that you know will have the deer on edge. A nice buck steps out and you can tell that he senses something, but can't quite locate it or identify where it is. It might seem like he is catching a sense of danger from 60 or 100 yards off, but it's not enough to spook him. He takes a few more cautious steps providing you with a perfect broadside shot. Due to your good scent control practices and your activated carbon Scent-Lok clothing, you are at least half the distance to that deer than he thinks you are.

So by using our products you will not only see more deer, but likely have more chances at deer within effective range. If you weren't wearing Scent-Lok that deer would have likely gotten a stronger whiff of you and would have never even stepped out from the thick cover.

As far as the cost is concerned, I guess that depends on what your description of "worth it" is. If you are already investing hundreds if not thousands of dollars in bow/gun equipment, trail cameras, leases, gas to and from your hunting spot, etc. wouldn't you want to pay just a few dollars more to gain an extra edge on the deer you spend so much time hunting? Our activated carbon technology clothing is only about $50-$75 more than what you would pay for quality NON activated carbon clothing. So for just $50 more you are getting scent control technology in a garment that is some of if not the most durable and high quality fabrics and feel that you will find anywhere. For as much time and money I invest in chasing whitetails, I want to make sure I can have every advantage and odd in my favor.

Is it the magic fairy dust that is going to solve every issue? Definitely not, but with good scent control practices, using your head and doing your homework Scent-Lok can do for you what it has done for thousands of others and that's allow you to see more deer and give you more opportunities than you have had before.

Again, not trying to spam here, just trying to provide some information. We love seeing topics like this being discussed by hunters. You guys are the first priority for manufacturers like us. We have always and will always continue to strive to bring you the best most effective products in hunting apparel. Stay safe and good hunting!

Alex
Scent-Lok Technologies

I think if you take the necessary precautions...showering etc and use scent lock...then play the wind right...you are money, the best that could be done

I would not mind a scent lok suit....just not to the point where I want to spend that much money on clothes. I have had plenty of success using Scent Away/ Dead Down Wind products that I just have not bothered buying activated carbon clothes. If I find a good deal I might try it out.

It might give you a slight edge, but you still have to play the wind and store your clothes properly....

I had bought a scent lok suit that was on sale just to try it out, now I have 4 different carbon based clothing suits lol Do I think it works? Definitely! Its not gonna eliminate 100% of human odor but i for sure think it helps.

Field and Stream did a test in this months issue, the dog found the guy at the same time (~15 sec) in all three scenarios (stinky, scent spray, and full suit). spend the money on a new gun or bow instead. Play the wind.

If used properly it helps, like all the other items a bowhunter uses. It's simply a tool that can help tip the odds in your favor, even if there slight, sometimes thats all you need is slight to get the shot. I too hunted for years without it and was succesful, but if it helps slightly and I'm going to wear camo anyway...IMO why not wear it.

Facts
1. Fresh unsaturated activated carbon will adsorb some odor molecules

2. It is hanging out on a open rack at the store so it's probably saturated when you buy it

3. It cannot be reactivated by a household dryer or anything that wouldn't incinerate it

4. The amount of carbon in the lining is minuscule to start with

5. All scientific tests have shown it does not work

6. All believers can spout is ancillary (faith based) evidence that it is of any benefit

7. Some people believe copper wrist bands and magnets help arthritis. They're wrong too

8. People I know that own these suits get busted just as often as I do

9. And finally these suits are kind of like the old "Miracle Diet Pill 3000" scam. Just take this pill, jog 4 miles a day, eat a low Calorie diet and watch Miracle Diet Pill 3000 melt the pounds away. LoL! The people who buy these suits are encouraged to shower in scent killer soap; keep these suits in a plastic bag when you aren't wearing them in the woods; spray down with scent killer spray; only put on the outer layer of clothing once in the woods; etc; etc;. LOL! If you did all that with your regular hunting clothes you would be just as well off. Don't credit the suit. Credit yourself. LOL!

Yes, until you put it on ! LOL

Used them, killed deer with them. As a kid, Scent Lok / Scent Blocker was never around, killed deer then as well. Your best bet is to play the wind, there is no better advice than playing the wind.

I have a buddy who bowhunts around 50 days a year and swears by it. He says if your gun or muzzy hunting forget it due to the smell of gun powder,oil etc... I don't believe it can possibly work as well since deer can smell so well and since most of your scent comes out of your mouth and the portion around your eyes you don't cover. I even talked to a scent loc employee and he said you only need the long underwear. What bugs me the most is when hunting celebrities are always touting them. I also laugh when they spray down with scent killer and miss 3/4 of their body. Even if it worked you would need to soak every square inch of your body and equipment.

People amaze me. Just a country boy but I reactivate my clothes all the time and they continue to absorb stink time and time again. It's called washing people.

I use the product and like it alot. Figure out what makes it different and you'll see why it contains and absorbs stink.

What would that be that we haven't already covered?

27% coverage ?
 

Alex:

Please note your own carbon expert ,Dr Amos Turk testified under oath that your product was ineffective in stopping human odor. Do you deny that was his testimony ?

Another PHD. Dr. Miller examined the scentlok material and testified that there was only 27% carbon coverage on you material and that left 73% of the material unable to stop human odor. Do you deny his testimony ?

Dogs win - carbon loses
 

Dog test Done'
John Shivik did a USDA Cerified test with 21 test
Score Dogs 21 Carbon 0

Fox News TV Fox 9 Mpls
Score Dogs 2 Carbon 0

Myth Busters Discovery Channel
Score Dog 1 Carbon 0

Smaxwell on youtube
Score Dog 1 Carbon 0

There have been many more test as well some recorded some not and still the dogs have won every time. Carbon keeps coming up with lame excuses why animals are smelling human odor.

Some food for thought - You can beat a deer and a dogs nose. I've seen it done in this kind of testing.

No Responce ???
 

I really didn't expect a responce from Alex at Scentlok. They don't have one. Why do you think they sealed most of their testimony at their trials. They were caught with their pants down and just are trying to bluff and continue to fool hunter's about their products.

"9. And finally these suits are kind of like the old "Miracle Diet Pill 3000" scam. Just take this pill, jog 4 miles a day, eat a low Calorie diet and watch Miracle Diet Pill 3000 melt the pounds away. LoL! The people who buy these suits are encouraged to shower in scent killer soap; keep these suits in a plastic bag when you aren't wearing them in the woods; spray down with scent killer spray; only put on the outer layer of clothing once in the woods; etc; etc;. LOL! If you did all that with your regular hunting clothes you would be just as well off. Don't credit the suit. Credit yourself. LOL!"

Yes, and they'll also ell you to hunt downwind.

I was reminded last night why I don't believe it works.Was watching one of my Bone Collector DVD's and Nick was hunting in Kansas I believe. A big Buck got behind him and he said to the cameraman,"He's going to get our wind" well the Buck busted them sitting there in their Scent Lock outfits which I clearly saw them wearing.I have seen this happen time and time again,so why should I buy it?

I keep my regular old hunting clothes in a plastic bin with some cedar shavings and pine needles. I also try to hunt at least 20' up in the air. This combination seems to work well enough for me.

I try to take the wind in consideration, but a lot of time the wind changes directions, and also the deer come from a direction I wasn't expecting about as often as they come from the direction I was expecting. So I just try to limit my scent and hunt high up in a tree.

Hey alex! Thanks for joining in on the topic! How's about sending me a sample of your product to test out?

I think a deer's sense of smell is highly over rated, especially during early bow season. The brush and leaves absorb and block your scent. If you hunt on the ground, it is fairly easy to see that their sense of smell is restricted before the leaves come down. Once the leaves are down they rely on their eye sight. I see deer get up at 300 yards + when they spot a hunter and sneak off. There is no way that they scent those guys. Deer can not tell how far away you are by scent on a slight breeze either. I have already sat in thickets with doe 10 feet in front of me and a slight breeze towards them and had them start checking up in the trees behind me. So much for all that cover scent nonsense.

My hunting camo/clothes do the following: Keep me warm,concealed,DEADLY!!!! While some innovations do prove worthy, in my woods I HUNT! If my success depended soley on my clothes, I'd probably be the guy up in a tree drooling at the monster bucks passing by out of range. If it makes you feel more confident/patient then use it but, don't forget the basics and be versatile. I don't use scent-lok and I don't care to! Just my opinion.

From my experience I believe, when used properly, it can help decrease but not completely mask human odor.

I use Scent Lok but I still play the wind when possible. If a deer ends up downwind, I'm praying my scent dispersion is minimized enough that I do not get busted. The suit is just part of my scent "minimization" process. So does it work? For me, I believe it does what I ask it to.

I'll be writing a blog dedicate to about scent elimination this season. Keep an eye out for it.

There's only one product that works. It's not very prestigious, but it's free. It's called staying down wind.

turk fan,What I do know is that Ive been wearing the same scent lock suit for 5 years.is it clogged up?does it work?A @#$#@%^%$load of deer (quality deer)say it certainly doesn't hurt!!

The site would not take my answer so I added enough characters .... my answer to your question .... nope.