Really botched my buck search...
02-01-2011, 04:59 PM
#41
Typical Buck
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 595
that is a stretch calling someone a poacher in this case. that word shouldn't be thrown out so loosely.
Sometimes things just happen so why not be a little supportive and constructive and mabey the next time this kid might do something a little different.
Tag or not to tag??? There are enough POACHERS around doing it all the time so back off and leave the kid alone.
Sometimes things just happen so why not be a little supportive and constructive and mabey the next time this kid might do something a little different.
Tag or not to tag??? There are enough POACHERS around doing it all the time so back off and leave the kid alone.
02-01-2011, 05:20 PM
#42
Typical Buck
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 595
chuck7.. man i tried that line before about every hunter.... illegal yada yada yada and it turned into quite the argument. I am surprised more people didn't bite on that and I agree with you.
Tersec & ipscshooter. So let me get this right. either one of you 2 shoot a deer and don't find it for a week lets say. So, you 2 save that tag all season just incase you find it?
Here we get 1 buck tag for gun. If I hit a buck and can't find it on opening day I should not hunt the rest of the season just incase someone finds it? What happens if I do hunt and kill a buck and then find the first one? Am I a poacher?
Tersec & ipscshooter. So let me get this right. either one of you 2 shoot a deer and don't find it for a week lets say. So, you 2 save that tag all season just incase you find it?
Here we get 1 buck tag for gun. If I hit a buck and can't find it on opening day I should not hunt the rest of the season just incase someone finds it? What happens if I do hunt and kill a buck and then find the first one? Am I a poacher?
02-01-2011, 05:58 PM
#43
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: The Republic of Texas
Posts: 12,040
The dude shot the deer and found it the next day. If he doesn't tag it, I would bet he's violating a game law in pretty much every state. Even the guys coming to his defense about "spoiled" deer" are in jurisdictions where you have to tag it, and then apply to the warden for a replacement tag. Maybe "poacher" isn't exactly the right word, but, I'm not sure what you call it when someone doesn't tag his deer.
02-01-2011, 06:08 PM
#44
Fork Horn
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 472
that is a stretch calling someone a poacher in this case. that word shouldn't be thrown out so loosely.
Sometimes things just happen so why not be a little supportive and constructive and mabey the next time this kid might do something a little different.
Tag or not to tag??? There are enough POACHERS around doing it all the time so back off and leave the kid alone.
Sometimes things just happen so why not be a little supportive and constructive and mabey the next time this kid might do something a little different.
Tag or not to tag??? There are enough POACHERS around doing it all the time so back off and leave the kid alone.
02-01-2011, 06:56 PM
#45
Typical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: NY: NYC to Watertown
Posts: 897
that is a stretch calling someone a poacher in this case. that word shouldn't be thrown out so loosely.
Sometimes things just happen so why not be a little supportive and constructive and mabey the next time this kid might do something a little different.
Tag or not to tag??? There are enough POACHERS around doing it all the time so back off and leave the kid alone.
Sometimes things just happen so why not be a little supportive and constructive and mabey the next time this kid might do something a little different.
Tag or not to tag??? There are enough POACHERS around doing it all the time so back off and leave the kid alone.
nor did they call him a poacher,
think the reaction was more against those telling him not to tag it,
saving a tag for a more favorable animal is poaching,
02-01-2011, 08:08 PM
#46
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: The Republic of Texas
Posts: 12,040
I thought I'd post a legal definition:
My original comment was in response to a gentleman who said "don't tag the deer." I said, if you killed it, and you found it, you have to tag it or you're no better than a poacher. And, "poacher" fits nicely within the legal definition, i.e. a harvest made without complying with the regulations for legal harvest. I wasn't being hard on the original poster, unless he decided not to comply with the laws of his state regarding the tagging of a deer that he shot, and that he found only 100 yards away, the next day.
Poaching Law & Legal DefinitionPoaching is illegal hunting, killing, capturing or taking of wildlife violating local or international wildlife conservation laws. This can occur in a number of ways. For example, illegal shooting or trapping of an animal from a private or public property amounts to poaching.
Activities that are otherwise legal may amount to poaching if they are done violating wildlife laws. For example, harvests made without complying with the regulations for legal harvest result in the illegal taking of wildlife and come under poaching. Only wildlife can be poached. Stealing or killing domestic animals is theft.
Activities that are otherwise legal may amount to poaching if they are done violating wildlife laws. For example, harvests made without complying with the regulations for legal harvest result in the illegal taking of wildlife and come under poaching. Only wildlife can be poached. Stealing or killing domestic animals is theft.
My original comment was in response to a gentleman who said "don't tag the deer." I said, if you killed it, and you found it, you have to tag it or you're no better than a poacher. And, "poacher" fits nicely within the legal definition, i.e. a harvest made without complying with the regulations for legal harvest. I wasn't being hard on the original poster, unless he decided not to comply with the laws of his state regarding the tagging of a deer that he shot, and that he found only 100 yards away, the next day.
02-01-2011, 11:27 PM
#47
Typical Buck
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 595
well i just think this kid was made to feel worse than he was when he posted. and we don't know if he tagged it, he never said. It just seemed like the main focus here turned into tagging or not tagging issue rather than hey it happens and try this next time. Which is what he was looking for I think to begin with.
And as far as the definition of poaching goes. This kid nothing illegal so quit looking for something that isn't there. And so I don't get beat up to bad I will say that if he took the head he should tag it.
And as far as the definition of poaching goes. This kid nothing illegal so quit looking for something that isn't there. And so I don't get beat up to bad I will say that if he took the head he should tag it.
02-02-2011, 05:11 AM
#48
Fork Horn
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location:
Posts: 295
The dude shot the deer and found it the next day. If he doesn't tag it, I would bet he's violating a game law in pretty much every state. Even the guys coming to his defense about "spoiled" deer" are in jurisdictions where you have to tag it, and then apply to the warden for a replacement tag. Maybe "poacher" isn't exactly the right word, but, I'm not sure what you call it when someone doesn't tag his deer.
02-02-2011, 05:49 AM
#49
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: The Republic of Texas
Posts: 12,040
am I missing something but no where did i read next day. he said last Wednesday he shot it the found it yesterday. well yesterday was monday. and by the way congratulations u just made this form unenjoyable for another person, u think this kid will want to post again? im sick and tired of reading all the posts with more people being ******* then helping someone out.
02-02-2011, 06:00 AM
#50
Fork Horn
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 121
Wardens here understand people eat the deer and want you to have meat in the freezer. Makes their job easier if I tag one legally instead of hunting them in July. If a deer was not found for a few days I honestly do not think they would expect you to tag it unless you wanted to keep the head or something. Times are hard guys and some really need the meat not a tag filled with spoiled meat.