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Gunplummer 12-26-2010 09:27 PM

You don't know what we were talking about or what you are talking about. The windpipe and esophagus are right next to each other and on a frontal shot you hit both. I was with a poacher when I was a kid and saw it done with a .22 long rifle. That is the way he always did it, said the brain was chancy.

BarnesX.308 12-27-2010 05:32 AM


The windpipe and esophagus are right next to each other and on a frontal shot you hit both.
yes, and you take out the spine right behind them. This is what would drop a deer. Especially with a 22.

A 22 hole in the trachea would be like giving the deer a tracheotomy. The diaphragm would still pull air into the lungs, just through the hole and the mouth. The esophagus would only be a problem if the deer were trying to swallow food. Unless they were very hungry, they wouldn't starve to death instantly :D

The spine will drop the deer instantly. The carotid and jugular, very quickly. Esophagus and windpipe are just incidental injuries and would not be the primary cause of death unless it was from bleeding out or infection. Both not instant.

lswoody 12-27-2010 06:32 AM


Originally Posted by ADVWannabee (Post 3745366)
Very timely subject for me. I intend to use a shoulder shot on the next deer I get where I hunt because like you, I have a small area to hunt and can't track them off the property. I know a shoulder shot is a sure thing with my 30-06 and figured it would be for blackpowder as well. But a couple posts here have me worried. I am using 100 gr of pellets with a 250 gr SST and was hoping for an exit wound. Sounds like with a shoulder shot, I might not even get through the vitals. :(

You should be ok as long as the ammo you use is jacketed and not just plain solid lead.

Gunplummer 12-27-2010 12:39 PM

BarnesX .308 -
 
Like I said before, I actually witnessed it happen. You can walk up on them and the deer will get to its feet and run, but will only go two or three steps and drop. A neck shot in the bone and they would never get up. This guy told me it drops them every time and he had plenty of experience with a .22, although he did get caught years later and paid thousands in fines. I never used less than a center fire for deer, but if I had a gun that could not break the shoulder and drop that deer I would get rid of it. I have used a .223 and .22 Hi-Power and both will break the shoulder. You really can't go much lighter than that.

seth_baker 12-27-2010 07:18 PM

You can put an entry wound wherever you want, exit wound is a different story. My last deer I shot in high shoulder bullet came out half way up the neck. (7mm Mag) High shoulder doesnt directly hit vitals, but the bone fragments do with large caliber and do more damage than bullet. High shoulder is my choice on a trophy buck, drops 99% of time.

marshgunner 12-28-2010 12:01 PM

Shoulder shot is my shot of choice. Drops them in their tracks.

jakeculp 12-28-2010 03:08 PM

Don't ever go for a head shot! It moves too fast and you can never tell when! Heart lungs all the way. With a 50 cal bullet you should have no problems. I haven't at least.

gregrn43 12-29-2010 12:00 PM


Originally Posted by BarnesX.308 (Post 3748163)
yes, and you take out the spine right behind them. This is what would drop a deer. Especially with a 22.

A 22 hole in the trachea would be like giving the deer a tracheotomy. The diaphragm would still pull air into the lungs, just through the hole and the mouth. The esophagus would only be a problem if the deer were trying to swallow food. Unless they were very hungry, they wouldn't starve to death instantly :D

The spine will drop the deer instantly. The carotid and jugular, very quickly. Esophagus and windpipe are just incidental injuries and would not be the primary cause of death unless it was from bleeding out or infection. Both not instant.

Very true Barnes, thats why trachs are done sometimes in the ER to secure airways. Without damage to the lungs or a occluded airway the animal can still breath. No question about that.


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