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thundermug 07-19-2003 02:42 PM

If deer can' t see blaze orange, why do we buy camo?
 
I can remember the early ' 80s we wore blue jeans and whatever coat we had and got just as many deer then as we do now.

Now we spend alot of money on camo. Why? We just cover it up with flourescent orange anyway.

CORD 07-19-2003 03:10 PM

RE: If deer can' t see blaze orange, why do we buy camo?
 
well as you know deer see in black and white and they see things broken up so if you where como its looks broken up to the deer if you wore a solid color shirt it will know somethings wrong and run

stubblejumper 07-19-2003 03:13 PM

RE: If deer can' t see blaze orange, why do we buy camo?
 
Deer don' t see colors as such but they do see contrast and can a light color (white or orange)against a dark background (trees or field).And no I do not wear blaze orange over my hunting clothes.It is not required in alberta and since the requirement was dropped several years ago accidental shootings did not increase.

hntngirl 07-19-2003 03:18 PM

RE: If deer can' t see blaze orange, why do we buy camo?
 

I can remember the early ' 80s we wore blue jeans and whatever coat we had and got just as many deer then as we do now.
:DLOL! Yeah, but then the deer got smart!
While deer don' t see color, they do see shapes and patterns. Camo serves to break up your outline and help you blend in better with what' s around you. Oregon doesn' t require orange, but it' s a good idea. I would think camo with some orange worn also is still harder for deer to see than jeans and a t-shirt.

LeeinVa1 07-19-2003 03:29 PM

RE: If deer can' t see blaze orange, why do we buy camo?
 
you wear camo for the same reason you buy every new fishing lure that comes along. it makes you feel better. :)

thundermug 07-19-2003 04:39 PM

RE: If deer can' t see blaze orange, why do we buy camo?
 


ORIGINAL: LeeinVa1

you wear camo for the same reason you buy every new fishing lure that comes along. it makes you feel better. :)
Bingo!:D:D:D

thundermug 07-19-2003 04:41 PM

RE: If deer can' t see blaze orange, why do we buy camo?
 


ORIGINAL: hntngirl

[:DLOL! Yeah, but then the deer got smart!
:D:D:D

txhunter58 07-20-2003 02:08 PM

RE: If deer can' t see blaze orange, why do we buy camo?
 
It also depends on what you are hunting with. A deer is not likely to notice you in blaze orange coveralls at 200 yards with a rifle unless you move at the wrong time. However when you are hunting with a bow and have to be 30 yards or less, blaze orange coveralls (or any solid color) would be a disadvantage.

As far as all the different " name brand" kinds of camoflage, close your eyes and pick one, cause it don' t make a hill of beans difference.

I wear a blaze orange vest and hat any time I am hunting public land whether or not it is a requirement. I have been sitting in brush but in sight of animals many times with blaze orange and as long as they weren' t within " spittin" distance, I have never had one spook from wearing the orange. On private land, where I know where everyone is, I wear camo.

jason3434 07-20-2003 09:59 PM

RE: If deer can' t see blaze orange, why do we buy camo?
 
is illegal to not wear orange if you own the land you are hunting on

thundermug 07-21-2003 02:58 AM

RE: If deer can' t see blaze orange, why do we buy camo?
 


ORIGINAL: jason3434

is illegal to not wear orange if you own the land you are hunting on
Depends on what state you are in

benhuntin 07-21-2003 03:28 AM

RE: If deer can' t see blaze orange, why do we buy camo?
 
They dont see blaze orange as blaze orange but they do see a solid non broken outline of a human predator. I like the blaze orange camo patterns. Breaks up your outline yet is safe. Camo isnt always needed but its just a little added insurance.........and it looks cool too!

kevin1 07-21-2003 07:40 AM

RE: If deer can' t see blaze orange, why do we buy camo?
 
Deer can see blue quite well , yellow too , but they are much like a red/green colorblind human in general . It' s also theorized that they may be able to see the lower band of the ultraviolet spectrum , which is why you shouldn' t use regular laundry detergent since it contains lots of uv brighteners . Deer also have no depth perception because of their eye placement . Camo breaks up your outline , I wear ordinary Woodland year round personally . Ain' t science wonderful ? [8D]

Jimmy S 07-21-2003 08:09 AM

RE: If deer can' t see blaze orange, why do we buy camo?
 
thundermug...Good question. I believe it helps to some degree (I wear camo during archery season) but being a smart hunter while in the woods, to me, is much more important than the clothes you wear. Folks have been shooting deer for many years, well before Hunter Orange and Camo was ever thought of. Everone seems to say what color deer can and cannot see, how solid colors are more apt to bring attention to the deer than broken patterns will (I believe all this is somewhat true) but not doing whatever is necessary to tilt the odds in your favor by playing the wind, trying to keep as scent-free as possible, not making unnesessary noise or movement is a heck of a lot more important than buying the " camo of the month" pattern....just my .02.

Nomercy 07-21-2003 10:42 AM

RE: If deer can' t see blaze orange, why do we buy camo?
 
Deer see movement extremely well, they have vision for low light conditions, so they see contrasts pretty well too, but they can' t descern detail well, and have depth perception problems, so if you wiggle at all, and they look for you based on the movement, they' ll find your shadowed outline if you look like you have arms and a head, when you put on blaze orange over your camo, they see a light square blob against the woodland back ground. They won' t be able to pick out your outline if you break up your entire body with lines and contrasts, they can' t pick out which line is the edge of you, or just another line on your coat. Take out your video camera or digital camera and put it in black and white, and have someone stand 50yds off, you' ll see how difficult it is to pick you out, you know what the blaze orange blob is, so that gives you away to other hunters, but deer just see it as a light squarish blob, not a human.

If you' re that worried about it, get a blaze patch well over regulation, and paint on a twig/branch camo pattern, or pin on ghillie pins, even in my non-leafy, non-ghillie camo hunting clothes, with a B&W camera and orange like that, you' d have a hard time picking me out if you could at all (cept my rifle), once tried to guide some hunting buddies to their blinds 30-60yrds away by standing in front of mine and waving my arms, they couldn' t hardly pick me out, so I' m confident that deer can' t either. I' ve also had a doe step over the bbl of my rifle while laying prone with a bit of my torso exposed under a pine tree (awesome blind, and it keeps you warm), I don' t think she or her herd saw my blaze hat or the blaze vest over my shoulders, do you?

Ruger1 07-21-2003 11:28 AM

RE: If deer can' t see blaze orange, why do we buy camo?
 
It' s called marketing. Experts get on shows and ads raving about their successes because (in thier opnion) it was all due to their Camo.

I and many other Firearms hunters have for many hours (in full head to toe camo blaze orange) sat in herds of deer - some close enought to touch -and they never knew were were even there. With no more cover that a rock and soap weed. The deer usually are also at a state of hightened awareness because the rut is over and the firearms season is on. The key to any kind of camo technique is to break up your out line and break up ANY large panel areas on your body.

It constantly amazes me to see how much people pay for camo they really don' t need. Confidence and know how are more important than 95% of the camo that is sold. IMO it is nothing more than another version of an equipment race. I think it is much more important to become invisible to their noses. Deer usually don' t give something a second look unless they smell something strange or they see movement.

Dave

rather_be_huntin 07-21-2003 12:00 PM

RE: If deer can' t see blaze orange, why do we buy camo?
 
Honestly if you' re a rifle hunter camo doesn' t make a difference and why you haven' t noticed a change in the success rate. And I' m assuming you' re a rifle hunter because you wear orange. When I hunt with a rifle I don' t even worry about my scent much less my clothing. If you' re a bowhunter it could make a lot of difference, maybe not so much in a treestand but on the ground it certainly would. When bowhunting having you' re outline broken up makes a big difference.

txhunter58 07-21-2003 12:21 PM

RE: If deer can' t see blaze orange, why do we buy camo?
 
JASON: FYI: It is legal in Texas, where I hunt, to hunt without blaze orange on private property.

BobCo19-65 07-21-2003 12:38 PM

RE: If deer can' t see blaze orange, why do we buy camo?
 

[Since you can' t make the dye for flourescent orange without UV components, deer see hunter orange. They may also see other clothing made with UV components ( many of the old camouflages were). Check your clothing under a blacklight. If it glows, deer can probably see it; use ATSKO' s UV killer to suppress/mask the glow. Or get new clothes (another reason/excuse to use on the wife).
I am quoting TR Michaels. If you are interested in reading more of what deer can see, check out his thread on understanding deer vision.

http://forum.hunting.net/asppg/tm.as...mode=1&smode=1

rockytop 07-22-2003 06:54 AM

RE: If deer can' t see blaze orange, why do we buy camo?
 
I wear camo to get away from the commercial colors that have uv brighteners. Back in the 80' s liberty came out with some camo overalls and I bought some. I couldn' t get near a deer for 3 years and I finally read about the uv brighteners in some camo. I put them camo' s under a blacklight and they looked like a neon sign. I quit wearing them and went back to killing deer again.

Trebarker 07-24-2003 10:00 AM

RE: If deer can' t see blaze orange, why do we buy camo?
 
Why? Because we are humans who depend on the media to enlighten us and we are like a herd of cows that follow the " leader" . I use this alias as I still hunt in the same hunting clothes I originally bought 15 yrs ago. They are faded badly, have tears in them, but they still break up my outline and that is the only reason I wear them. Otherwise, bluejeans and a t-shirt in whatever color you desire is just as effective if scent free.

outdoorsman09 07-25-2003 07:35 PM

RE: If deer can' t see blaze orange, why do we buy camo?
 


deer can actually see a bunch of colors... they just don' t look the same...red looks yellow... and camo looks blue...and i think blaze orange is red... not sure... they can also see purple... don' t know why' d u' d wear that deer hunting though... les ur a viking fan...;)

FlDeerman 07-27-2003 10:07 PM

RE: If deer can' t see blaze orange, why do we buy camo?
 
We wear it because it looks cool!!!!!

Cougar Mag 10-18-2003 12:20 PM

RE: If deer can' t see blaze orange, why do we buy camo?
 
Many of your reasons are valid but, ultraviolet light is real! So is wearing a solid color. By the way, I have worn camo ever since I started deer hunting....namely army camo at first then Trebark.

jerseyhunter 10-18-2003 12:52 PM

RE: If deer can' t see blaze orange, why do we buy camo?
 

and i think blaze orange is red... not sure... they can also see purple... don' t know why' d u' d wear that deer hunting though... les ur a viking fan...
and the down side would be?



Yeah, but then the deer got smart!
only the ones that survived;)

blindhog 10-18-2003 05:28 PM

RE: If deer can' t see blaze orange, why do we buy camo?
 
I do it so as to be in fashion.

I just can' t imagine showing up at the Omelet House in last years edition of camo!!

:D

Troy R 10-18-2003 07:29 PM

RE: If deer can' t see blaze orange, why do we buy camo?
 
I think that alot of people wear there camo' s for gun deer season is because alot of them hunt other animals also Predator,Duck,Turkey,etc.. So they use them for Deer also. I dont like to tear up my Jeans or other clothing. I also Predator hunt.

They are coming up with more and more info on what and how the deer can see.

I am not worried about it when it comes to deer, since I believe that deer is not one of my hardest animals to hunt, in the list after, Predator hunting,Turkey,and hogs without dogs I think is harder.

The 3-D glow in the dark camo I would not have.




mainehunt 10-19-2003 06:47 PM

RE: If deer can' t see blaze orange, why do we buy camo?
 
Until some deer walks up to me and tells me he is color blind, I' m wearing camo.

Here in Maine you don' t have to wear orange during the bow season, just for gun hunting.

george_s 10-21-2003 08:00 PM

RE: If deer can' t see blaze orange, why do we buy camo?
 
camo? so everyone knows we are hunting:D

1hntr 10-21-2003 08:32 PM

RE: If deer can' t see blaze orange, why do we buy camo?
 
Because if you wore just plain blaze orange a deer would think" MY MY MY what is that big thing over there. You would be as a solid color to A deer. I wear blaze
orange coveralls, but they are mixed with camo. sorta like the background is orange.
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