A difficult situation
 

ok, say you and a friend are sitting on the ground side by side against a large tree. All of a sudden you hear leaves crunching behind you, so you turn to look and its a big buck. But the buck sees you turning and stops dead in its tracks.

Now say you already have your buck tag filled, but your friend doesnt. Hes out trying for a buck and you are trying for a doe.

The problem is that your friend cannot see the buck, and the only way he could see it is to get on his knees and turn around. But if he does this, that buck would probably high tail it the other direction.

Now youre already in position that you know would be an easy shot.

My question is: Couldnt you aim at the buck with your gun, and tell your friend to reach over and pull the trigger?

After all, Ive heard that the person who pulls the trigger is the killer.

First of all, you should never take a shot unless you know and can see what you're shooting. Know your back stop. Just doesn't sound too safe to me and besides that, there's very little chance that your friend is going to make a clean kill on a crazy shot like that. DON'T DO IT!

That is a really bad idea. Sounds like this is not a hypothetical situation, so what did y'all actually do?

To me it seems you gave the option of two bad choices. Take an unsafe shot or do something unethical. That being shoot the deer and have your friend tag it as your own. Both of which are bad choices. If the deer sees you does not necessarily mean you are busted. Stay very still he may stick around or move in your friends shooting lane. Or he may just wander off because he doesn't like what he sees. He'll be back. My friend was scouting one morning and came accross a buck which saw him but didn't wind him. He has seen it a couple of times in the area since.

Not sure of your state's regulations, but in Wisconsin you could tag it with your hunting buddies tag. If he's already agreed to do it and your are within shouting distance of each other, it's perfectly legal for you to use his tag.

That would be against regulations in Missouri, and just a bad idea in general. Why not just wait on the next one to come along?

If your friend is steering and you're pushing the gas, who's guilty of drunk driving??

So what does your friend get out of a hunt like that? Has no idea what or where he is shooting. Just a take your word for it. Is he going to mount it and tell everyone "seriously I didn't see him coming or did I see where I was shooting him. But I got him." I guess if thats the way you guys do it. Maybe a better way to do it is hit one with a truck and let him come over and give it the final shot. :rolleye0011:

This didnt happen to me. I heard some guys talking about it in town the other day and I wanted to see what you all thought about it.

dont sound very ethical to me.....

OK, people read and comprehend the OP. The hypothetical has the two hunter seated NEXT TO ONE ANOTHER. The shot could be taken by the turned party.

One question is what is the friend looking for in a buck?

Another is, has it been decided that either party can shoot for the other to fill tags?

Party hunting can be a no win situation, hypothetical or not.

Party hunting is Illegal in Indiana. You are not allowed to shoot a deer and let your friend tag it.

These guys were talking about some way to get around that predicament if the scenario ever happened.


How about killing 2 bucks with 1 shot? badddddd. but the CO can still give you a tag to possess the other one.

Or What if you shoot a deer and it runs across the STATE line into the next state? what then?

What if youre shooting at a deer and just miss high and accidentally hit a bald eagle sitting behind it on a low limb???

What if youre sitting 25 feet up in a tree beside a creek, and a deer walks between you and the creek and you miss BUT accidentally shoot over its back and hit a largemouth bass? Its illegal to shoot sportfish.

:P

Or what happens if you try a shot like that and it hits a kid on his 1st deer hunt and kills him? Sounds like thats a know your ability and whats in the background.

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1- Don't sit that close together
2- 1 sit facing 1 direction and the other guy on the other side of the tree facing the other direction.

Too many "what if's" for me.

People need to stop trying to find scapegoats to break the law in a very ridiculous way.

Yep the person pulling the trigger is one hundred percent responsible for everything that bullet does till it stops.This goes against all firearms safety practices everywhere, and some hunting Safety and law practices.You've already got your answers from slot of these responses. All are valid and there is more that I won't go into cause there is no need. Stupid idea bottem line.
Most important though I'd worry about this, if that bullet hit or whizzed passed my head both guys, would be dead if I wasn't.
And I know There is more out there that feel the same way I do and would respond in the very same manner as me.

I guess NO ONE on here understood the question. Well, maybe 1 person.
You all seem to think its like a passenger in a car telling a BLINDFOLDED driver where to turn and when to press the gas and brake.
That is not what I meant.

Understand the question.

LETS SAY Im hunting with my friend and we are sitting 1 foot apart. thats 12 inches. Got it?

NOW lets say Im looking for a doe, and he is after a buck.

NOW lets say a buck walks up on MY side of the tree.

My friend has no way of getting a shot.

OK. the part no one seems to get.

I aim at the deer with my gun. IM THE ONE AIMING WITH A CLEAR VIEW.

I tell my friend to lightly squeeze MY trigger while IM AIMING AT THE BOILER ROOM OF THE BUCK.

Can I make it any clearer? Or are all of us hunters too retarded to understand the concept of this question?

if its too many then dont reply

Sounds like a situation somebody dreamed up after smoking too much of the wacky weed.

I wouldn't consider it my kill if I didn't aim the rifle.

I hate ticks too.

We hunters are retarded?

Did you think about what your typing before you typed it?

Yeah, your aiming the rifle and ask your friend to pull the trigger.....And?

What the hell do you want us to say?

I would not consider it my hunt if my "friend" did all the work of holding and aiming the rifle and alls I did was simply pull the trigger without even seeing or knowing what the hell you're aiming at.

Could it physically be done?.....Uhhh I would say so.

It it wise or even smart?....Hell no.

Stupid questions get stupid answers, suck it up.

I guess retarded questions deserve to get retarded answers. The fact is most of us wouldn't do a goddamn thing until the guy saw and got a good clean shot at the goddamn animal.So what the hell are your own thoughts on this retarded question that you asked?

I'm glad you said it Jeff..... those were my exact thoughts! Well put!
Live it up! Doug

Heres the part I don't get. How can a person feel good about a deer when they have no idea what it looks like? Its your word its a buck. Is it a 3x3, 4x4 basket rack, what? Most hunters would like to seize the moment and decide on their own if that is the animal they choose to shoot or let him walk. Then there are the others that say "its a buck". This "person" needs to let the other person get his own buck, on his own with knowledge that he may end up without one. Thats part of hunting.

Well I wasn't the first be who said it.But it isn't a difficult situation at all. Many have been in it that predicument, I think most if us have. Some may just shoot and their buddy tag weather it's legal or not. To me, no animal is worth the embarrassment and consequences reguardless of size , and I just as soon as shoot my own on my own terms.This scenario idea is just obsurbed.Yeah we all did a round about way of answering, but we all had the same conclusion for the most part.Why Bristo couldn't see what people are trying to make in their responses is beyond me.If he wants a straight forward answer, don't ask a retarded question like this, that has millions of reasons not to do it, a million answers to reasons not to do it .And no reason that it should be done and millions of answers to reasons as to why it shouldn't.
**** Doug I hate questions like these.But he asked.

That's my take on it too. Even if it was safe (which it isn't), what's the point? Your friend wouldn't have accomplished anything (he couldn't have killed it on his own), so why bother?

Some people will go to extremes to kill a deer...whatever happened to the thrill of the hunt? Might as well shoot it out of your living room window if all you want is a deer. :nonono2:

Edit: Also, can we please strike the word 'retarded' as a term of derision from our vocabulary? It's pretty offensive in general, especially considering some people on this forum may have mentally handicapped family members. I think we can agree that 'ignorant' or just plain 'stupid' is equally accurate in describing the OP's question. ;)