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Old 10-21-2010, 10:02 AM
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So i have to vent a little here, I'm not even angry, just very frustrated. There's a 500acre farm across the street from a house I started renting 4 years ago. Each year, the president of the hunting club that leases it comes by to chat and ask what I've been seeing as he knows that I am a hunter as well. Last season he came to me and said there was an opening which i jumped on. Needless to say, I am very grateful to this man and even before I got invited to the club, thought he was a very good guy to speak with so I have no issues with him.

As he was showing me the land, he was pointing out stands that he "Hit" deer from. Seems like for every two he got, one went unrecovered over the years. Flash forward to now, I've spotted a real nice 6pt a few times this summer and once bowhunting. Today was the first day of a 3 day blackpowder season. It seems I'm the only one that bowhunts the land so when firearms come, I let the guys have their usual spots and I find my own section thats out of the way. Well I get home from hunting at 9am (had to work at 11) and got a call from the president saying he's tracking a 6 point with 2 other members that he shot that morning. I gladly go help as they were a 10 minute walk from my home. They already tracked a good 300yards and we found some more blood drops and then it just stopped all together. We looked for 1.5 hours more and couldn't find a drop or the deer. I felt bad for the hunter and was mad the deer wasn't recovered since I knew from the description and location it was the 6 I was seeing. Bad shots happen, lord I know, I've been searching for blood on my hands and knees numerous times. So when we gave up and I had to go, I finally heard the story. The guy took a shot at 175yds, maybe a tad more, at a walking deer, quartering towards him from the way it sounded. Again, I wasn't there so I can't judge, maybe he really thought he could make it but knowing his track record, it just really aggravated me. Especially since there is still 2 months of bow season and at least 3 weeks of firearm hunting still to come and he didn't wait for a better shot. Wounding deer happens, part of the game but this one really seemed needless to me. They won't be hunting that area this afternoon, I think I am going to take my golden retriever with me on a long line and see if he can track it down. Never tried it before but its worth a shot. I envy everyone here who owns their own hunting property! Ok venting over, now its time to make the game plan for tomorrow
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Old 10-21-2010, 10:09 AM
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that sucks hopefully you and your dog can find that guys deer
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Old 10-21-2010, 10:52 AM
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What kind a waterhead becomes a hunting club president and carries a track record of 33% kills/"hits". Better yet what kind of people voted this dude in ?
In my little hutning world peer pressure alone would have forced this guy out long ago.
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Old 10-21-2010, 11:07 AM
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I call him the president loosely I guess. He's the one that collects dues and signs the lease, I think he's just the longest standing member. My record of his recoveries just goes by the stories he told me as we walked the property and passed all the stands. Seems like he had a story for each one and there were a lot of no recoveries in there. I'm just grateful to have hunting property right out my front door now and basically have the place to myself all bow season and even most late gun season. I don't question anything and keep to myself but I walked away today shaking my head. I just wanted to ask him, "what on earth were you thinking?" I know towards the end of the first week of gun hunting they do deer drives. I didn't participate last season when I had the chance because the previous few years it sounded like a war zone out there so who knows how many sprinting deer they were unloading on. So I just pay my dues, do my own thing and cringe when firearms season comes. We all have equal right to the land but I almost feel more attached to it since I walk out my door and scout or hunt everyother day and they just show up blasting during gun season. I have no grounds to complain on but it sure wrecks a lot of my plans
Heading out now to see if I can recover that deer
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Old 10-21-2010, 12:02 PM
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It sounds like a coup d'etat is in order! At least you know you would have marksmanship on your side.

I know that being the new guy, it might be tough to tell the group "Hey you might shoot and recover more and bigger deer if you are more patient with the animals and wait for a better shot," but who knows, maybe reasoning with them would be helpful? I guess what I'm suggesting is if you are going to say something about it, it would be good to phrase it in a way that appears that you are trying to benefit them rather than scold them.
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Old 10-21-2010, 12:21 PM
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He lets his poor marksmanship, adrenaline and thought rationale get the best of him. He really needs to think out better how to make a proper shot and when.

Sorry to hear about that deer. Maybe you and your buddy(dog) can find him?

Good luck,

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Old 10-21-2010, 05:18 PM
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Yeah I can't get myself to say anything to him as much as I'd like. Honestly I think its the age difference, I'm 30 and he must be in his 50's. Its funny, if he was someone around my age, I might just say something but for some reason I can't. It was windy this afternoon so instead of hunting from a tree, I went looking for his deer for a good 2 hours. Ok maybe 45 min of solid "looking" and then an hour and a half of scouting/still hunting in the area. No sign of this deer. I emailed him to tell him the news and he thanked me for looking again and said its all he can think about and next time he'll grunt to try and stop it, he just didn't think of it this time. I figured thats the first thing someone would think of but whatever. I do know he feels bad which makes it a little better for me. I really wanted to find this guys deer so he wouldn't be out to shoot the next thing that walks by him now. Without the deer though he's back in the woods on Saturday
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Old 10-22-2010, 12:14 AM
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You just can't fix stupid, some guys just don't get it...
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Old 10-22-2010, 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by nchawkeye View Post
You just can't fix stupid, some guys just don't get it...
absolutely true...
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Old 10-22-2010, 05:32 AM
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I'd just keep my mouth shut and chalk up his hunting as extra exercise for me.

Sounds like you don't have a lot of options to hunt other properties and you getting kicked out of the club for being the big mouthed new guy(not saying you are but you may get that from folks) then you be stuck with no where to hunt and he'll still be wounding deer.

Next time you do take one and tell the story just emphasize the parts you do that you don't think he is when he wounds one. Don't point out the differences in your hunting and his but maybe listening to your good fortune and the things you did will help him learn something.

Guy may not be stupid, just may not have had a good person to teach him what the right things to do were when he was young and learning. Folks assume to much--guy doesn't hunt perfectly=stupid, I hunt with a club, some guys really know what they are doing and some don't. I do however notice the ones that don't, like to try to mimic the ones who do. Maybe not come strait out and ask for help but they are listening to the story when someone takes a deer. Good chance for them to learn without looking stupid.

Just writing a guy off as "can't fix stupid" with a holier then thou attitude seems foolish to me.

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