White-tail Deer -- .357 Magnum 158 grain SJSP vs. Hornady 140 grain Leverevolution
#1
Spike
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Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 18
White-tail Deer -- .357 Magnum 158 grain SJSP vs. Hornady 140 grain Leverevolution
Last year I shot two does with IMI Samson 158 Grain SJSP. They were fired from a Marlin 1894C carbine. Iron site, sited in at 100 yards dead on the mark.
The first was shot at 73 yards, broadside, through one shoulder and out the other. She ran 40-45 yards and collapsed dead cold.
The next one I shot was 40 yards out, front left shoulder and stopped just short of exiting her right back side. She ran 25 yards and collapsed.
Both deer required only one shot each.
This year my shooting lanes have been extended from about 100 yards to about 130 yards. I would still like to use my .357 Magnum rifle because the trigger is so nice and I can hit well with it. Would the Hornady Leverevolution ammunition, at 140 grains make a difference/be effective at that distance? Would it take a Southern white-tail deer out to 130 yards?
.357 Magnum 140 gr FTX® LEVERevolution®
From 18" rifle barrel
Velocity (fps) / Energy (ft/lb) / Trajectory Tables
MUZZLE: 1850 / 1064 / -0.9
50 yds: 1632 / 828 / 1.2
100 yds: 1438 / 642 / 0.0
150 yds: 1272 / 503 / -5.4
Thanks
The first was shot at 73 yards, broadside, through one shoulder and out the other. She ran 40-45 yards and collapsed dead cold.
The next one I shot was 40 yards out, front left shoulder and stopped just short of exiting her right back side. She ran 25 yards and collapsed.
Both deer required only one shot each.
This year my shooting lanes have been extended from about 100 yards to about 130 yards. I would still like to use my .357 Magnum rifle because the trigger is so nice and I can hit well with it. Would the Hornady Leverevolution ammunition, at 140 grains make a difference/be effective at that distance? Would it take a Southern white-tail deer out to 130 yards?
.357 Magnum 140 gr FTX® LEVERevolution®
From 18" rifle barrel
Velocity (fps) / Energy (ft/lb) / Trajectory Tables
MUZZLE: 1850 / 1064 / -0.9
50 yds: 1632 / 828 / 1.2
100 yds: 1438 / 642 / 0.0
150 yds: 1272 / 503 / -5.4
Thanks
#3
I'd stick with what you've been useing there's not gonna be enough diffrence in the two loads to bother switching. Like the saying goes if it ain't broke don't fix it. Also with a 357 I'd make 100 yards my maximum range for deer. I really would prefer em within 80 yards. If you like the design and fit you could look into a marlin 1894 44 magnum with that one I'd take 130 yard shots. Just my 2 cents
#4
Spike
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Belding, MI
Posts: 46
I would not shoot that far with a .357 at a deer. According to the ballistics listed above, your bullet is below 800ft/lbs shortly after 50 yards. I've often heard of 800 ft/lbs as being the minimum energy recommended for whitetails. I would limit myself to 50 yards with that rifle. Not saying that a perfectly placed shot wouldn't work at 100+ yards, but if the shot isn't perfect, you're probably going to wound your deer.
#5
Spike
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Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 18
Below 800 FPE not enough?
I understand your point...but, I took a deer at 73 yards and from the looks of it the damage was extensive to the deer. Everything between the entrance wound and exit wound was nothing but jello...both lungs and the heart. I can't see the velocity dropping that much another 30 yards or so out.
And, what about people hunting white-tail with .357 Magnum handguns? There are plenty of successful, quick, clean kills with it...and, the FPE actually STARTS out under 800 fpe.
http://www.federalpremium.com/produc...un.aspx?id=327
Muzzle**/**25*/**50**/**75**/**100--Yards
1130***/*1092*/*1059*/*1030*/**1003--FPS
510***/**477*/**448*/**424*/***402--FPE
***** /**0**/**-0.9*/**-3.8*/**-8.7--Trajectory
Just wondering....
And, not matter what we are hunting with, handgun or the lastest shoulder cannon, a clean, well placed shot should be primo on the list of a good hunter.
Thanks.....
And, what about people hunting white-tail with .357 Magnum handguns? There are plenty of successful, quick, clean kills with it...and, the FPE actually STARTS out under 800 fpe.
http://www.federalpremium.com/produc...un.aspx?id=327
Muzzle**/**25*/**50**/**75**/**100--Yards
1130***/*1092*/*1059*/*1030*/**1003--FPS
510***/**477*/**448*/**424*/***402--FPE
***** /**0**/**-0.9*/**-3.8*/**-8.7--Trajectory
Just wondering....
And, not matter what we are hunting with, handgun or the lastest shoulder cannon, a clean, well placed shot should be primo on the list of a good hunter.
Thanks.....