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HuntingKS 09-20-2010 01:02 PM

I feel horrible; Console me
 
This past week (Sat. Sept 11) while hunting during the KS youth season with my 11 year old, we did something that I truly feel horribly about and I'm looking for some consolation.

We went out to hunt whitetails on some private property that we have permission to hunt on. It's a great property and absolutely loaded with deer. Within the first hour, a doe presents an easy shot at 40 yards. My nervous 11 year old is gripped with buck fever and fails to steady himself in time to get a good shot off. No problems, about an hour later, a couple of does show up about 150 yards away - too far for him to shoot, but they're headed somewhat in our direction.

They get about 80-90 yards from us along the edge of the field they were following. It's the closest they will get on thier current route, and I tell my 11 year old to take a shot because he won't see too many that are better. He aims at one of the does that happens to be shielded from my view by a low hanging branch, but he has a perfect view of it. He fires and exclaims, "I hit it." I wasn't able to see the shot or where the deer went afterwards.

We immedately go to the spot he thought it was at. We search far and wide for blood, hair, anything and find nothing. We fan out for about 30 yards into the very dense woods (everything is very thick, still green, and growing right now) next to the field. We still find nothing. I ask him more about where the deer was standing and where it went. To the best of our knowledge, we've looked for it and can't find any evidence that it was hit. I assume he missed, and we move on.

We see 12-14 more deer that evening, but nothing presents a good shot. So, we pack it in when it gets dark, and we make it back the follwing Friday. While walking the property on our way to where we were going to set up, we smell something dead. After looking for 30 minutes, we finally find the remains of a doe - nothing but skin and bones. The coyotes had picked it clean. There was no doubt that it was the doe he shot.

The little bit of skin that remained on the ribcage showed a well placed shot. The doe had gone 40 yards and left no evidence of being hit and made it into some of the thckest stuff I've ever seen.

So, what do you think? I feel like an irresponsible hunter, and to make it worse, this would have been my 11 year old's first deer. I now vow not to let him shoot unless I have the deer squarely in my binocs.

So, let me have it.

Hunting Kuk 09-20-2010 01:07 PM

I'm sorry man, that has to be hard on ya, good luck at finden the next

jerrrrstanley 09-20-2010 01:16 PM

I think it will be a good leason for him. Next time believe him a little more and treat it like you saw him hit it and don't give up so easy. I lost one two years ago that a buddy of mine shot as his first deer. We found blood but I couldn't find her. Blood ran out after 100 yards and it was so thick I was crawling. Never found anything. At least he knows he killed his and fed some coyotes! Its a good nature leason of how nothing goes to waste in the wild.
Stuff happens. No need to live in the past. Focus on getting him his second one and finding it so you can see the look on his face when you tell him to gut it! (my dad still laughs about it)

Down&OutHunting 09-20-2010 01:20 PM

Hey man it happens to the best of us. Everyone makes mistakes so theres no reason for anyone to jump all over you. We always question our actions after we make them and we all wish we could go back and change them but remember the past is the past and all we have to do to better ourselves is learn from our mistakes.

halfbakedi420 09-20-2010 01:24 PM

Look it happens..throw away the vow....your only concern should be handling him with that rifle....
Let him handle the deer.
Just him saying he hit it is awesome, next time believe him. He saw the shot through the scope, which is real hard to teach, so your doing good.
As soon as i saw the 30 yard part of your story, i shook my head. 30 yards is never the distance to quit looking, ( i know i know unless its dead)..
Everytime we go get the dog, we were just 20-40 yards from findin the deer..just how it goes i guess

ADVWannabee 09-20-2010 01:31 PM

I had the same thing happen to me with a nice 6 ptr. He was maybe 40 yards away standing in the wide open and me with a scoped 30-06. The bullet didn't exit and there was no blood or hair. I didn't think I had hit him and after looking for a while my father-in-law and I gave up. Found him 5 days later not 75 yards away. He went up hill and out of sight, then turned straight away from us and then headed down hill where he died. From then on I have vowed to treat every shot like a hit and search harder.

But nature has a way of reclaiming things so dogs, coyotes, buzzards, crows, etc get to eat.

hawryli 09-20-2010 01:44 PM

Definitely if you have a dog, go get him and use it next time to try and help. But from what I understand, you just need to look longer and harder for the deer next time

deernutz 09-20-2010 02:49 PM

Hey it's hunting. It's a good lesson for you and your son. We have all lost deer. No prob keep hunting and mentoring your son. Don't worry about it even though I know it will bug ya. Good luck to you and your son.

UncleNorby 09-20-2010 03:07 PM

It sounds like you are not that experienced yourself, so its hard to beat you up too bad. But you both learned some lessons. All you can do is try harder next time.

A dead deer 40 yds from where it was shot should be a recovered deer. No surprise it went into thick stuff. Don't just stare at the ground when tracking. Often blood will be on grass or other stuff a couple feet off the gound. If tracking fails you, go to a systematic approach. Do grids or circles from the last sign. Check every piece of thick cover, downed tree tops, brush piles etc. Many times deer run to small pieces of cover in large openings, like a lone tree in a field. Be sure to check sources of water. Wounded deer, especially gut shot deer, often go to water. If that fails, get help from friends if possible. Sometimes a guy that was not there to see where the deer was supposed to have gone will take a different approach, and there's nothing bad with more eyes looking.

Keeping up the search when you have found no visible sign can be tough. It is tempting to think the deer is not hurt. This time was a little difficult, because you were not looking through the scope when the gun went off, and you're dealing with a beginner. Be sure to encourage him so this event won't be the beginning of the end of his hunting.

lodiss 09-20-2010 03:27 PM

You clearly are an ethical hunter because you are showing remorse.

If anyone here gives you grief about losing a deer they clearly have never hunted because it has happened to every single hunter I know.

You need to take this experience and grow from it. You owe it to your son so he becomes a better hunter along with you.

critterkiller88 09-20-2010 04:38 PM

i wouldnt be so hard on yourself. the deer did not go to waste, and theres more out there. just keep lookin high and low next time. good luck to your son for the next one he lays down

halfbakedi420 09-20-2010 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by critterkiller88 (Post 3686110)
i wouldnt be so hard on yourself. the deer did not go to waste, and theres more out there. Just keep lookin high and low next time. Good luck to your son for the next one he lays down

lol are you kidding?

Backwoods7 09-20-2010 05:02 PM

It happens I Noked one down last season with a 3006 useing 165 gr corloks at 20. Yards I saw him hit the ground he got up ran off got one drop of blood the size of a penny and never found no more never found the deer. I've killed 30+ deer and have only lost that one made me sick. Chalk it up for leasson learnd

SteveBNy 09-20-2010 06:38 PM


Chalk it up for leasson learnd
What was the lesson?

kswild 09-20-2010 06:41 PM

It does happen. I've tracked a deer for a quarter mile bleeding only one small drop of blood every fifty yards.. Tracked it for three hours in the dark. Quit till morning. I even tracked it across a creek. Found one drop of blood on one side and searched the other side till I found One small drop. Found the deer about one hundred yards from where I quit the night before. Coyotes had almost ate the whole deer in about six hours. You just have to keep at it. Hope all goes well next time. Best of luck.
Live it up! Doug

zaboo 09-20-2010 06:49 PM

really would not fret over it to much. its a mistake dont beat yourself up. only thing you could have done(if the temp was low enough to keep it fresh) is get a fresh start looking the next day. but dont worry about that.

jrbsr 09-20-2010 09:17 PM

[quote=HuntingKS;3685920]
We immedately go to the spot he thought it was at. We search far and wide for blood, hair, anything and find nothing. We fan out for about 30 yards into the very dense woods (everything is very thick, still green, and growing right now) next to the field. We still find nothing. I ask him more about where the deer was standing and where it went. To the best of our knowledge, we've looked for it and can't find any evidence that it was hit. I assume he missed, and we move on. quote]

Don't beat yourself up over it.
If you didn't find any evidence of hitting the doe, blood, hair, or anything.
Then how would you know that the doe was hit.
Especially when your son missed the doe, the first time.
So go back, and try again.
Sometimes things just don't turn out like we think it will.
Good Luck getting another one.
Tell your son thats just how real life is some times.

JMHO

Bocajnala 09-21-2010 11:39 AM

Best response is get him back out there and keep working hard. One thing I've noticed with younger hunters is that they really have no clue where the animal was when they shot. They get very focused on one thing-the game- and lose sight of everything else. At that age it's very important for you to know where things are and closely watch what's going on. Sometimes deer don't bleed. And that may be the case here, or maybe the deer just wasn't where he though it was. Get out there, and keep him interested! Good luck and let us know when he connects on one!
-Jake


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