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Scent controll ( no shower)
We live a hour away from our hunting property and that means getting up real early to make it there in time to get in the woods before the light comes up. We have always shower with scent-a-way before we left and with my kids it mostly been a haft day hunt.This season we are going to use our camper and do some evening and morning hunts.The camper does not have a shower. So what can we do to help with scent control for the next morning hunt.
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Keep your hunting cloths completely seperate from the camp. we take the no-scent baby wipes and wipe our selfs down, some no scent deodurant and spray. might not be the best but you have to go with the best you can do.
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Like WNY said, keep your hunting cloths away from camp or in a sealed container and wipe down with the scent wipes and spray yourselves down, you should be fine. When I hunt our farm in Iowa I stay in an old pump house for up to 5 days at a time and do all that. I haven't had a problem with getting winded yet. I chew the hunters breath gum also.
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I think that people are getting way too technical here.
A few years ago, a friend of mine shot a nice 7 point buck with his 30-30 rifle, open sites and the whole 9 yards. When I asked him the particulars, he said that he was in his old clothes that he wears when he works on the drilling rigs and was standing under a tree at the top of a hill, smoking a Camel Wide menthol. Yellow duck Carhardts and a orange vest and orange hat. There is no such thing as scent control. No matter what you do, you are always going to have a scent. A person that was teaching how to hunt coyote's once taught us the first rule of hunting is - YOU STINK. His opinion was - the first thing that you need to do is to divert the attention away from you and onto another object. In the case of hunting coyote's, one of their favorite foods is rabbit. So he went out and bought this big pink bunny rabbit and he put his speaker for his electronic call somewhere near the rabbit and he sits about 40 yards away with his shotgun and shoots these poor defenseless little coyote's. The same holds true for deer. We have guys at hunting camp that goes practically a whole week without a shower, and yet they get these monster bucks all the time. They drink, they smoke cigarettes, they eat pork and beans and Limburger cheese. How do they do it? They get organized. They realize that there is two ways of hunting deer. You can sit on a stump until something comes your way, or you can put on organized drives where some people posts and some people drives. It doesn't matter if it is archery season, rifle season, muzzle loader season - they get deer all the time. I know of another successful hunter that doesn't like to get cold, so he builds a fire in the woods and hunts next to the fire. If it isn't too cold, he carries a bucket of charcoal and just lights up the charcoal when he gets cold. He has a metal bucket with holes in it that he carries around. Those people have all gotten plenty of deer and none of it involved scent loc suits or taking a bath in some sort of chemical. I have a 10 year old bottle of Tinks 69 and I put a little Tinks on the bottom of my boots if I get desperate and more then once - I have had deer walk right up the trail that I had just walked, sniffing the ground like a old hound dog. They didn't even look up when I shot them. Where I live, deer gets used to seeing the farmers do their chores at different times of the day and more then one farmer told me of how he was successful hunting by just wearing his old barn clothes. The deer knows what cows and chickens smells like and they don't pay them no mind. They were also used to seeing him walking around his fields and riding around on his tractor and when he decided to carry a gun and shoot one of them, they didn't know that it was going to happen until it happened. |
put all your scent free stuff on at the blind, or close to it, and take it off before leaving, keep it in a scent free bag. you can even leave it hangin in a tree so you dont have ta carry it in and out all weekend.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Deer Hunter
(Post 3684857)
I think that people are getting way too technical here.
A few years ago, a friend of mine shot a nice 7 point buck with his 30-30 rifle, open sites and the whole 9 yards. When I asked him the particulars, he said that he was in his old clothes that he wears when he works on the drilling rigs and was standing under a tree at the top of a hill, smoking a Camel Wide menthol. Yellow duck Carhardts and a orange vest and orange hat. There is no such thing as scent control. No matter what you do, you are always going to have a scent. A person that was teaching how to hunt coyote's once taught us the first rule of hunting is - YOU STINK. His opinion was - the first thing that you need to do is to divert the attention away from you and onto another object. In the case of hunting coyote's, one of their favorite foods is rabbit. So he went out and bought this big pink bunny rabbit and he put his speaker for his electronic call somewhere near the rabbit and he sits about 40 yards away with his shotgun and shoots these poor defenseless little coyote's. The same holds true for deer. We have guys at hunting camp that goes practically a whole week without a shower, and yet they get these monster bucks all the time. They drink, they smoke cigarettes, they eat pork and beans and Limburger cheese. How do they do it? They get organized. They realize that there is two ways of hunting deer. You can sit on a stump until something comes your way, or you can put on organized drives where some people posts and some people drives. It doesn't matter if it is archery season, rifle season, muzzle loader season - they get deer all the time. I know of another successful hunter that doesn't like to get cold, so he builds a fire in the woods and hunts next to the fire. If it isn't too cold, he carries a bucket of charcoal and just lights up the charcoal when he gets cold. He has a metal bucket with holes in it that he carries around. Those people have all gotten plenty of deer and none of it involved scent loc suits or taking a bath in some sort of chemical. I have a 10 year old bottle of Tinks 69 and I put a little Tinks on the bottom of my boots if I get desperate and more then once - I have had deer walk right up the trail that I had just walked, sniffing the ground like a old hound dog. They didn't even look up when I shot them. Where I live, deer gets used to seeing the farmers do their chores at different times of the day and more then one farmer told me of how he was successful hunting by just wearing his old barn clothes. The deer knows what cows and chickens smells like and they don't pay them no mind. They were also used to seeing him walking around his fields and riding around on his tractor and when he decided to carry a gun and shoot one of them, they didn't know that it was going to happen until it happened. |
Well a few members got what I was asking about controlling some of our body odors before we go in the woods.
Its a simple question what would you use if you did not have a shower to help with your body odor. Mr. Deer Hunter--IMOP your post is BS marlin30/30_drabe--- Did you even read my question I did not say scent free I said help with scent control. washing with a scent free soap and using a scent free deodorant is in no way "some of these guys just dont get it." you do the same with keeping your clothes is scent free bags and using cover scents is that not a wastes of money. Sounds to me like you get it you just dint want to buy it to it. just my opinion. smell you latter.:happy0001: |
No I think Mr. Deer Hunter has part of it right and he did read your question. Scent control and being scent free are in the same chapter. Scent free is like being perfect, it is a relative statement meaning scent control. scent free whipes, just plain water to wipe up no soap, keep hunting clothes outside of the camp. But the key is if you are a set and wait guy scent control is "some what important", if you are a stalker, not as important in your goal is to see them before they see you. Scent Control, and Camo are the same commerical money schemes. Paying 400 for you camo paints and coat isn't going to make your success better than wearing old clothes. Just stay away from blues and yellows and you are good to go. And deer don't see blaze orange. I am forester with a blaze orange vest. I can't tell you the number of times I have stood on plot and have had deer just walk up to me. I was on plot a week ago in a old burn over (open woods), stunk to high heaven. My vest should have a hazardous material placard on it, plus wearing bug spray. A doe walked right up me to just feeding, got within 8 steps and looked at me for a minute, then turned and feed off. Not a bit alarmed.
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If possible, avoid sweating. Even in cold weather, I walk to my stand without heavy clothes, and put them on when I get there or even after I get into a stand. I know guys that get fully dressed at the house, then ride in a truck with the heat on, then walk to their stand and they are sweating when they reach their stand. Not only does this lead to increased human scent, they get cold fast and end up leaving their stands too early.
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The whole thing boils down to ....It's not for you to be scent free which is impossible. It is for the deer not to smell you until AFTER he walks within range. TOO LATE. Get it?
Live it up! Doug |
I agree all those scent wipes and things are a big hoax,I have killed several deer smoking a marlboro cig and even eating deer salami in the blind.
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I do have one bottle of scent away tho I guess,I just use it after I get done smoking to spray the walls of my blind.
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Originally Posted by blackhawk_archery
(Post 3686255)
I do have one bottle of scent away tho I guess,I just use it after I get done smoking to spray the walls of my blind.
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I think that people are getting way too technical here. A few years ago, a friend of mine shot a nice 7 point buck with his 30-30 rifle, open sites and the whole 9 yards. When I asked him the particulars, he said that he was in his old clothes that he wears when he works on the drilling rigs and was standing under a tree at the top of a hill, smoking a Camel Wide menthol. Yellow duck Carhardts and a orange vest and orange hat. There is no such thing as scent control. No matter what you do, you are always going to have a scent. A person that was teaching how to hunt coyote's once taught us the first rule of hunting is - YOU STINK. His opinion was - the first thing that you need to do is to divert the attention away from you and onto another object. In the case of hunting coyote's, one of their favorite foods is rabbit. So he went out and bought this big pink bunny rabbit and he put his speaker for his electronic call somewhere near the rabbit and he sits about 40 yards away with his shotgun and shoots these poor defenseless little coyote's. The same holds true for deer. We have guys at hunting camp that goes practically a whole week without a shower, and yet they get these monster bucks all the time. They drink, they smoke cigarettes, they eat pork and beans and Limburger cheese. How do they do it? They get organized. They realize that there is two ways of hunting deer. You can sit on a stump until something comes your way, or you can put on organized drives where some people posts and some people drives. It doesn't matter if it is archery season, rifle season, muzzle loader season - they get deer all the time. I know of another successful hunter that doesn't like to get cold, so he builds a fire in the woods and hunts next to the fire. If it isn't too cold, he carries a bucket of charcoal and just lights up the charcoal when he gets cold. He has a metal bucket with holes in it that he carries around. Those people have all gotten plenty of deer and none of it involved scent loc suits or taking a bath in some sort of chemical. I have a 10 year old bottle of Tinks 69 and I put a little Tinks on the bottom of my boots if I get desperate and more then once - I have had deer walk right up the trail that I had just walked, sniffing the ground like a old hound dog. They didn't even look up when I shot them. Where I live, deer gets used to seeing the farmers do their chores at different times of the day and more then one farmer told me of how he was successful hunting by just wearing his old barn clothes. The deer knows what cows and chickens smells like and they don't pay them no mind. They were also used to seeing him walking around his fields and riding around on his tractor and when he decided to carry a gun and shoot one of them, they didn't know that it was going to happen until it happened. true there is no way of bieng "scent free" thats just common sence. but controlling your scent in a way that lessens the intensity is possible. i would have to say using a new set of clothes every day would prob help out more than anything. i never wear a pair of clothes for more than 2 hunts "morn and eve" they can get soiled very quick with no shower. good luck this season |
As long as the deer are not down wind, it doesn't matter what you smell like...I am very picky about my shoes and pants legs as they will smell where you have walked through, and turn around...
For the past 20 years I have camped on one of our farms for a week with a couple of my buddies...I don't shave for a week, showers are taken outside using a Coleman shower bag...Sometimes I go a day or two without a shower...I sometimes wear the same pants for a couple of days...In other words we camp, have fun drink a little beer, eat chili and beans and enjoy ourselves... I do used Scent Away soap and use non scented deodorant...I don't wash my clothes in special soaps... We kill 15-20 deer during this week and 40-50 deer a year on our farms... If you know your area and where the deer are coming from and hunt when the wind is right you can stink to high heaven...I will not hunt a stand when I know the wind is wrong, that's the key... Daniel Boone lived in Kentucky from 1769-1771...Wonder what he did for scent control??? :) |
nchawkeye - you, my friend, are wrong! There is no way that he could have survived. He couldn't have killed a deer without being scent free or having the newest camo. That's blasphemy! Completely absurd! That's like me saying that I used to kill deer in blue jeans and a tshirt! Or that I smoke on stand and eat tootsie rolls and have seen 23 deer in 4 sits! We all know that it can't be true. :biggrin:
OK I have a weakness for tootsie rolls on stand, so what! |
playing the wind is always ideal but how many times have you been in the stand and have the wind shift 360 degrees all the way around you? anything you can do will help...... period.
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Do the best you can with what you have to work with. Most of these products are gimmicky at best. I kind of think all these expensive sprays are not doing much since they don't penetrate deeply into material and coverage is never 100%. I guess we are really reducing scent not really eliminating scent. All the tests I have seen that were "Independant" show scent products to not really work very well. The best thing we can all do in my opinion is to try to keep the deer up wind of us. Good Luck to all.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Deer Hunter
(Post 3684857)
I think that people are getting way too technical here.
A few years ago, a friend of mine shot a nice 7 point buck with his 30-30 rifle, open sites and the whole 9 yards. When I asked him the particulars, he said that he was in his old clothes that he wears when he works on the drilling rigs and was standing under a tree at the top of a hill, smoking a Camel Wide menthol. Yellow duck Carhardts and a orange vest and orange hat. There's a reason why bow hunters practice at least some scent control (some go crazy with it). It works... You can get away with a lot more if you play the wind and use some distance in your favor (as you can with a gun), however.
Originally Posted by eerdog
(Post 3685455)
A doe walked right up me to just feeding, got within 8 steps and looked at me for a minute, then turned and feed off. Not a bit alarmed.
You're right about the color thing though. Deer can't see color, but they do see form. Camoflage does help, but you don't have to buy $400 clothes. I've used cheap old army fatigues to good effect. Daniel Boone lived in Kentucky from 1769-1771...Wonder what he did for scent control??? LOL! As others have said, it's not about being scent free, it's all about increasing the odds in your favor. If your scent, color, pattern, whatever are perceived as less threatening by deer (ie. don't stand out quite as much) you're less likely to alert them to your presence. As an analogy, when law enforcement has suspects under surveillance, they don't have to be invisible; they just have to blend into the surroundings. |
Originally Posted by marlin30/30_drabe
(Post 3684874)
:party0005: thank you, some of these guys just dont get it. (no offense to others) there is no way to be scent free. i do use cover scent and keep my clothes is scent free bags so they dont pick the odors of my garage but all the scent-a-way soaps, deodorant, etc. uis a waste of money
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NEBRbruiser - you didn't read the fine print did you????? That product claims to eliminate 99% of REPLICATED human odor. REPLICATED???? Really? And how do they do that? And if it's REPLICATED, is it a water based or oil based REPLICATION? Then there is another product that has 100%=Success on the bottle but doesn't say anything about 100% of what. 100% odor elimination or 100% got ya sucker!???
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Hopefully, I'm not resurrecting a dying thread... but as a newcomer to the sport of hunting, it's a pretty humbling experience when you're gathering items for your very first hunt. Maybe I can offer a different perspective...?
I went to a local Gander Mountain last weekend and you could spend several, several hundred dollars just buying all things for scent elimination and/or scent control. Does it honestly mean that I don't have a chance in heck of shooting my very first deer if I don't buy into all of this...? I can't afford to spend a few hundred dollars on clothing that supposedly no longer makes me smell human (huh?) and I can't afford to spend several hundred dollars on gadgets and gizmos and spray bottles of magical potions and liquids either. Maybe this has been brought up before and maybe not... but how did our forefathers and ancestors (or heck my own grandpa!) shoot trophy deer back in the day? They didn't have super-duper scent eliminator zero human spray back then. No fancy scent wafer chips to snap onto your hat, right? I swear, I've gone through hundreds of old hunting photographs online last weekend and I can't find one! And I'm pretty sure a lot of deer were harvested, weren't there? Because I've found a lot of old photographs from the 50's and 60's and 70's online with some gentlemen who shot and killed from pretty nice looking animals. Somehow I'm doubting the fact that they sprayed down liberally with a weird overpriced concoction before heading out for dinner that evening. $250.00 for super duper scent eliminator pants (courtesy of Cabelas) and another $229.00 for the super duper scent eliminator jacket, plus WI State Sales Tax AND shipping/handling... means I'm spending upwards and over $500.00 for just two items: some pants and a jacket. Does the trophy deer come with this clothing or is that separate? My point to all of this rambling is the fact that on one hand we all say we need to keep the younger generations hunting and keep them outdoors and off the couch and away from the video games. We need to teach the younger generations about hunting conservation and wildlife and deer hunting and what an amazing experience it is. And then we have the audacity on the other hand to sort of brainwash (for lack of better word?) that in order to get started in the sport, you need ALL THIS STUFF! It seems to me that it would be a sure way to really turn someone off... rather than turn them on to the hobby. I gotta say... adding up all of the "stuff" that I needed for my first hunting outing was a pretty daunting experience. I easily got caught up in the fancy flyers and advertisements on The Outdoor Channel and aisles and aisles of scent elimination. Then I took a step back... and realized, this is sort of ridiculous. I shouldn't have to go into debt to enjoy a sport that our grandfathers did every weekend each Fall for absolutely nothing. A few bullets in their coat pocket is a far cry from a $500.00 super duper human scent be gone outfit. Am I completely out of the norm and way off base? I'd love to be able to go on my first deer hunt this season, but I can't afford to spend thousands of dollars so that I no longer smell human. |
Originally Posted by AMM0
(Post 3686987)
Hopefully, I'm not resurrecting a dying thread... but as a newcomer to the sport of hunting, it's a pretty humbling experience when you're gathering items for your very first hunt. Maybe I can offer a different perspective...?
I went to a local Gander Mountain last weekend and you could spend several, several hundred dollars just buying all things for scent elimination and/or scent control. Does it honestly mean that I don't have a chance in heck of shooting my very first deer if I don't buy into all of this...? I can't afford to spend a few hundred dollars on clothing that supposedly no longer makes me smell human (huh?) and I can't afford to spend several hundred dollars on gadgets and gizmos and spray bottles of magical potions and liquids either. Maybe this has been brought up before and maybe not... but how did our forefathers and ancestors (or heck my own grandpa!) shoot trophy deer back in the day? They didn't have super-duper scent eliminator zero human spray back then. No fancy scent wafer chips to snap onto your hat, right? I swear, I've gone through hundreds of old hunting photographs online last weekend and I can't find one! And I'm pretty sure a lot of deer were harvested, weren't there? Because I've found a lot of old photographs from the 50's and 60's and 70's online with some gentlemen who shot and killed from pretty nice looking animals. Somehow I'm doubting the fact that they sprayed down liberally with a weird overpriced concoction before heading out for dinner that evening. $250.00 for super duper scent eliminator pants (courtesy of Cabelas) and another $229.00 for the super duper scent eliminator jacket, plus WI State Sales Tax AND shipping/handling... means I'm spending upwards and over $500.00 for just two items: some pants and a jacket. Does the trophy deer come with this clothing or is that separate? My point to all of this rambling is the fact that on one hand we all say we need to keep the younger generations hunting and keep them outdoors and off the couch and away from the video games. We need to teach the younger generations about hunting conservation and wildlife and deer hunting and what an amazing experience it is. And then we have the audacity on the other hand to sort of brainwash (for lack of better word?) that in order to get started in the sport, you need ALL THIS STUFF! It seems to me that it would be a sure way to really turn someone off... rather than turn them on to the hobby. I gotta say... adding up all of the "stuff" that I needed for my first hunting outing was a pretty daunting experience. I easily got caught up in the fancy flyers and advertisements on The Outdoor Channel and aisles and aisles of scent elimination. Then I took a step back... and realized, this is sort of ridiculous. I shouldn't have to go into debt to enjoy a sport that our grandfathers did every weekend each Fall for absolutely nothing. A few bullets in their coat pocket is a far cry from a $500.00 super duper human scent be gone outfit. Am I completely out of the norm and way off base? I'd love to be able to go on my first deer hunt this season, but I can't afford to spend thousands of dollars so that I no longer smell human. Live it up! Doug |
Originally Posted by kswild
(Post 3687029)
be quiet, stay still, and keep the wind in your favor, which usually means in your face.
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Originally Posted by UPHunter08
(Post 3687218)
Amen, brother. Especially the part about keeping the wind in your face. That's better than any scent control you can buy.
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How long have carbon suites and such been out? were we killing deer prior to this?
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Play the wind, best advice anyone can give, period, which, as several have pointed out is scent control. I also get up in the trees which has helped tremendously in the amount of deer I see within 30 yards.
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We are a archery only family. so we do try to get the deer as close as possible so I do want to try and help (control) our body odor. Has said we shower in the morning and that about it for odor control. I don't buy in to the scent control stuff and dont use any cover scent. I have been know to use a scent trail of doe pee but that is not a cover.I know we have a scent and there is not much we can do about that but I would like to help reduce the amount that we take into the woods. it look like baby wipes for the weekend. Happy hunting .smell you latter
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I think Mr. Deer Hunter got it pretty well. I also think we really spend way to much time thinking about scent control and keeping our scent to an absolute minimum. Here is how I think of it, if you are scared to death of skunks, whether you smell the faintest of a skunk or a smell a skunk that just sprayed 10 feet away, you are going to beat feet out of where you are. Whether a deer smells a extreme faint smell of a human or an intense smell of a human, both times they are going to be running if they are scared of humans.
Personally, I just try my best to stay clean but don't overdue it. Play the wind and you'll be fine. |
I can tell ya'll this, today I went to my ground blind around 4:30 pm. It was almost 90 today so I had a t-shirt on..boots that came out of my bedroom. With-in 45 minutes of getting in my blind I had 3 deer at 10 yrds. The wind was blowing 20 to 30 miles an hour. Right at them from my back they never smelled me. Even being up wind and only 10 yards away.... Whats even better is I got it on vid...So much for scent control. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWTfqYst_5E
Live it up! Doug |
Originally Posted by halfbakedi420
(Post 3687404)
dude.. :cool15: that is scent control
If you're buying the wind in your face you're probably getting ripped off. ;) |
Originally Posted by kswild
(Post 3687724)
I can tell ya'll this, today I went to my ground blind around 4:30 pm. It was almost 90 today so I had a t-shirt on..boots that came out of my bedroom. With-in 45 minutes of getting in my blind I had 3 deer at 10 yrds. The wind was blowing 20 to 30 miles an hour. Right at them from my back they never smelled me. Even being up wind and only 10 yards away.... Whats even better is I got it on vid...So much for scent control. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWTfqYst_5E
Live it up! Doug I think that's more than enough adequate proof for me. Thanks for posting this! |
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I'm not going to knock or recommend any product to control your scent. A few years back I bought a bottle of scent away and still have it, just forgot to use it.
My buddies & I hunt weekends, a week, and some times 2 weeks at a time. One of our camps is on the bank of a river and we bathe in it. I'm not a fanatic about bathing, but I'm going to bathe every day even if I have to heat some water in a pan. We sit around the campfires, and most of the time I'm the cook. If on a long and hot hunt/camp (archery season normally), and my clothes are soaked with sweat, I'll usually wash them in the river and hang up somewhere in the camp and wear a clean set the next day. When we get up in the mornings we normally get the camp fire stoaked up and have our coffee and breakfast. My point is, I don't worry about the smell, heck I even take a thermos of coffee to my stand and drink it while in the stand. I have occassionally used fox, raccoon, or skunk urine on my boots but rarely. My main concern is and saying, "It's all in the wind." dog1 |
When i go into a camp with no running water i will take some no scent baby wipes,my clothes hang on the porch .I use no cover scent sometimes i'll put some doe in heat on my clothes around rut time.I try to use the wind.
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The answer to Scent Control is "Wind Control" :)
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The terms scent free, scent lok, etc. are money makers, nothing else. Wash your clothes in scent free, non uv brightener soap, keep them in plastic bags, make sure you don't have cologne or smelly deodorant on yourself, use commons sense and you'll be fine.
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You want the ULTIMATE, almost free scent control????
Floss your damn teeth! You breath and emit odor CONSTANTLY. I bet less than 25% of you floss your teeth (but will likely but scent sprays....). And try to hunt the wind, of course. If I can smell dirty "meat eating" breath on people, I can assure you that deer can! |
as said...scent control is playing the wind.
You can try to minimize your scent by washing yourself..that's not a bad plan. But you can spray all the sprays, bars, pouches, candles..whatever..the deers nose is sensitive enough where it will be able to then smell all the different smells individually...they know you stink, they know you tried to cover it up... I guess it's about the same as when your wife drags you into the bath and body shops at the mall...your nose gets hit with all kindsa stuff you don't know quite what it is...but it stinks and you want away ASAP... |
My hunting partners think I'm nuts because even when its crazy cold at camp I hang my outer jacket and pants from a tree branch overnight. We do not have running water so scent control is iffy at best. I don't use any of the special toothpastes, laundry detergents, deodorants, etc... I do intentionally stand by the campfire in my hunting clothes. I would sure rather smell like campfire in the woods then body odor, pets, or some other unnatural or chemical smell. The only product I have used in recent years is doe urine (not doe in heat) on my boots, and that is only sometimes. Using this as my only scent protection has allowed me to have face to face encounters hunting from the ground outside of any blinds or tents. In my opinion, controlling your movements and noise is way more important than scent, although I guess you could say that I am using the very inexpensive campfire scent :).
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