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blackhawk_archery 09-17-2010 03:32 PM

acorns
 
Went out today and took a look around the woods I am hunting and was amazed at the amount of acorns on the ground,some places in the dry creek bed I was ankle deep in acorns.I seen a lot of doe tracks and a few small buck tracks.

DocD 09-17-2010 03:49 PM

Not to be a "Smart Ass" but how do you tell a Buck track from a Doe track, Thanks, Doc

blackhawk_archery 09-17-2010 08:11 PM

This is a doe track atleast in my area.

blackhawk_archery 09-17-2010 08:12 PM

This is a buck track.

Gladius87 09-17-2010 08:19 PM

No... I believe in the bottom pic, it just illustrates that the track was made in softer soil. All deer's hooves do that so their weight is evenly distributed. It makes them have better traction in soft footing. You can't really tell sex from a track... You may be able to tell an approximate size of the deer by measuring the track... but not the sex.

blackhawk_archery 09-17-2010 08:48 PM

I disagree,I have seen deer in fields same soil type same moisture level and different tracks was left by the doe and the buck,I have seen this on numerous occasions.

blackhawk_archery 09-17-2010 08:53 PM

I dont know how it is in randolph county but here in fulton and peoria counties its not uncommon to hunt trails that are cut like cattle paths and you can tell a buck from a doe,find you a field with a buck and a few does in it on a muddy day and go over and look at the tracks you will see the difference.

Gladius87 09-17-2010 09:03 PM

I'm sorry, but if you research this at all you will find that both bucks and does can leave splayed tracks with dewclaw markings. Doesn't matter what county it is. Size and direction the deer is moving are about the only things you can determine from tracks. For the love of God I wish someone else would chime in. I'm sure this has been argued over and over again on these forums.

*edit*
I will concede that you may be able to tell sex based on where a back hoof falls in relation to a front hoof as the deer was walking. However, splayed tracks mean nothing with regard to sex.

HardwoodHunter 09-17-2010 09:07 PM


Originally Posted by Gladius87 (Post 3684564)
I'm sorry, but if you research this at all you will find that both bucks and does can leave splayed tracks with dewclaw markings. Doesn't matter what county it is. Size and direction the deer is moving are about the only things you can determine from tracks. For the love of God I wish someone else would chime in. I'm sure this has been argued over and over again on these forums.

Haha, i agree completely with you. I just tend to not chime in on blackhawk_archery's posts...for this reason.

Gladius87 09-17-2010 09:13 PM


Originally Posted by HardwoodHunter (Post 3684565)
Haha, i agree completely with you. I just tend to not chime in on blackhawk_archery's posts...for this reason.

I think I'm about to take the same approach.

blackhawk_archery 09-17-2010 09:19 PM

Well sorry you guys are unable to tell the difference,spend a little more time in the woods and pay attention to the tracks one day you will learn the difference.

HardwoodHunter 09-17-2010 09:19 PM


Originally Posted by Gladius87 (Post 3684567)
I think I'm about to take the same approach.

I find it being the best.

blackhawk_archery 09-17-2010 09:55 PM

Those are just pics from google not my pics.
I dont go by the dew claws I go by the size and the spread and have hunted a lot of hot trails and it has worked for me I have seen more bucks then does because of this.

blackhawk_archery 09-17-2010 10:00 PM

I shot this 13 point buck in a heavy hunted area I found his tracks and waited in the rain for 3 hours and sure enough here he comes shot him at 5 yards.

Night Crawler 09-18-2010 04:56 AM

I am going to have to agree, very easy to tell the diff, jst look at the pics. all does have pointed curvy hooves, all bucks have more a rounded,squared hoove. The dew claw just means a heavier deer, but not always. I see alot of buck track with no dew claw prints.

chammons 09-18-2010 06:18 AM

Don't know about the tracks, but that sure is a nice buck on the wall.

Mr. Deer Hunter 09-18-2010 06:54 AM

I think somebody here is full of prune juice.

You can't tell if a deer is a buck or a doe by just the tracks.

Where I live in Pennsylvania, most bucks never gets past two years of age, because every rifle season, 90% of all the mature deer were shot.
When antler restrictions came along and when some people actually started to follow the rules of antler restrictions - the deer grew to a older age.

The deer in the picture was not a mature buck, he should have left it go another year and then it would have been more mature. I would guess the age of that deer to be around 2 1/2 years old MAX.

One thing my dad passed on to me when I was younger was in deep snow, often times a buck will drag his toes when he runs / walks.
If you see the sprag marks in the snow - there is a 50/50 chance that it was made by a buck. But there is no guarantee's that even if you find the track that the deer is going to have a trophy rack on it.

syrupman 09-18-2010 07:24 AM

There is a diffrence does have the hoovs pointed tword eachother and bucks have split tracks

Gladius87 09-18-2010 08:37 AM

I'm gonna actually point people to what I would consider to be a knowledgeable source on the issue. I would say D&DH is credible. http://www.deeranddeerhunting.com/ar...nlock_Secrets/

HardwoodHunter 09-18-2010 09:06 AM


Originally Posted by syrupman (Post 3684686)
There is a diffrence does have the hoovs pointed tword eachother and bucks have split tracks

not always.

blackhawk_archery 09-18-2010 10:57 AM

I didn't intend to start a big debate,we cant always agree and maybe I know the difference between a buck track and a doe track and maybe I don't but all the evidence I see in the field tells me that I do know the difference,as far as the buck not being mature he weighed 185 pounds,I never look at the antlers on a deers head to determine if its a shooter or not I go by body mass,I have never been a trophy hunter nor looked at deer hunting as a sport,I do it because the meat is 90% better then anything in the store and for the deer being 2 1/2 years old you are dead wrong his teeth was dang near down to nothing he is bigger and better looking in person.

twcw5804 09-18-2010 11:59 AM

Wow, my second post i've read in 24hrs of people arguing over Blackhawks posts. The last one has been going on for a year now.

Tool:popcorn:

7.62NATO 09-18-2010 12:08 PM

On the subject of acorns, I have had a ton dropped in my back yard. And guess what? They are TINY. Most of the size of my pinky nail, and that's being generous. We have had a pretty severe drought this summer, so this is somewhat expected. I just didn't expect them to be THAT small. This will make for an interesting fall/winter for the deer for sure.

Need new bumper sticker: Shoot a squirrel, save a deer.

blackhawk_archery 09-18-2010 12:52 PM

We had good rains here all year,so the there is some good size to the acorns where I am hunting,lots of squirrels to never see those suckers until deer season.

blackhawk_archery 09-18-2010 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by twcw5804 (Post 3684783)
Wow, my second post i've read in 24hrs of people arguing over Blackhawks posts. The last one has been going on for a year now.

Tool:popcorn:

I am a tool because some don't agree with me?

I thought as people we was entitled to our own opinions.

Kid 09-18-2010 03:10 PM

Why is the name of this thread "acorns"? :confused0024:

blackhawk_archery 09-18-2010 03:50 PM

it was originally about the large amount of acorns,but like anything on the internet turns into a big debate.

A11en 09-18-2010 04:23 PM

The only way I can tell the difference between doe and buck tracks is to get on all fours and smell them.

W9ARcher 09-18-2010 09:05 PM

So does it pay to gather up the acorns and use them around your stand when time comes to hunt a particular area? I gathered up a 5 gallon pail of White Oak acorns from a local park and was thinking of saving them for later in the season after the squirrels have had their fill.

blackhawk_archery 09-18-2010 09:44 PM

I dont know for sure that a small amount like that would help you wouldnt hurt to try tho,if I were going to bait I would most likely buy a bunch of apples.


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