UPDATE What is this?? UPDATE new pic.
#91
Spike
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 42
KS - I really maintain that we need clearer pictures, but thought that outlining the shape after magnifying the picture could be helpful for others to look at.
2lunger - I never said wiki was fact. You have not posted any scientific facts either there buddy. Get YOUR facts down first before saying there ARE NOT any of an animal. Show the rest of us proof the same way you are asking for proof. PS. I'm a girl.
"In cats, melanism results in the fur of the animal being very dark or black in colour. In many cases the usual markings of the animal can be faintly seen through the dark fur, especially at certain angles in bright sunlight. Melanism occurs because of a mutation or abnormality of one of the cats genes which is associated with coat coloration and markings. Melanism is hereditary, but is not necessarily passed directly from one generation to the next - it is therefore common to see ‘mixed’ litters with one black cub along side normally coloured brothers and sisters. Melanisim can also occur in other species of wild cat - black coated caracal, Geoffrey’s cat, margay, bobcat, ocelot, jaguarundi and serval have been noted in the smaller cats as well as occasional mention of the coloration in the larger lion, tiger and cougar. " - from a site about wild cats.
Again though it could well be dogs, without clear video or a clearer photo there's not a surefire way of knowing.
2lunger - I never said wiki was fact. You have not posted any scientific facts either there buddy. Get YOUR facts down first before saying there ARE NOT any of an animal. Show the rest of us proof the same way you are asking for proof. PS. I'm a girl.
"In cats, melanism results in the fur of the animal being very dark or black in colour. In many cases the usual markings of the animal can be faintly seen through the dark fur, especially at certain angles in bright sunlight. Melanism occurs because of a mutation or abnormality of one of the cats genes which is associated with coat coloration and markings. Melanism is hereditary, but is not necessarily passed directly from one generation to the next - it is therefore common to see ‘mixed’ litters with one black cub along side normally coloured brothers and sisters. Melanisim can also occur in other species of wild cat - black coated caracal, Geoffrey’s cat, margay, bobcat, ocelot, jaguarundi and serval have been noted in the smaller cats as well as occasional mention of the coloration in the larger lion, tiger and cougar. " - from a site about wild cats.
Again though it could well be dogs, without clear video or a clearer photo there's not a surefire way of knowing.
#92
Hence the attitude. As soon as this game is over I will finally put in the time to prove to you that there is no such thing as a black cougar. Heck, no documented picture or living/dead of such creature should be enough proof.
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#95
Alright. They are two black labs. One one the left and one on the right. The front one has his tail up like a bird dog. There isnt any panther I've ever seen in pics or videos that walk around with its tail up. Com on guys.
#96
Spike
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 42
Anyways, It'd be cool if the cam did end up with some clearer pics of the same animals, so we all knew for sure . I personally am torn. I feel like the legs ARE slender, but that one head just has me scratching my own. It's so boxy!
#97
What? You didn't like my attitude comment?
WM: Many reports are of "black panthers". Is there really a black panther?
DR. SHROPSHIRE: To our knowledge, no black Florida panther has ever been confirmed in North America, either in the wild or in captivity. As stated above, the vast majority of panthers are light brown in color. The jaguar, a close relative of the panther which is found in Mexico and Central America, does have a black phase, as does the leopard which is found in Asia and Africa. The black panther is a myth, however, largely perpetuated by novelists, the movies and by those who confuse the jaguar or leopard with the panther.
There are no authenticated cases of truly melanistic cougars (pumas). Melanistic cougars have never been photographed or shot in the wild and none have ever been bred. There is wide consensus among breeders and biologists that the animal does not exist.[citation needed]
Black cougars have been reported in Kentucky and in the Carolinas. There have also been reports of glossy black cougars from Kansas, Texas and eastern Nebraska.[citation needed] These have come to be known as the "North American black panther". Sightings are currently attributed to errors in species identification by non-experts, and by the memetic exaggeration of size.
Black panthers in the American Southeast feature prominently in Choctaw folklore where, along with the owl, they are often thought to symbolize Death.
In his Histoire Naturelle (1749), Georges-Louis Leclerc, Comte de Buffon, wrote of the "Black Cougar"[6]:
I'm not sure how much clearer we can get that black cougars do not exist. There is more scientific evidence that ghosts and Big Foot exist over such a thing as a black cougar.
WM: Many reports are of "black panthers". Is there really a black panther?
DR. SHROPSHIRE: To our knowledge, no black Florida panther has ever been confirmed in North America, either in the wild or in captivity. As stated above, the vast majority of panthers are light brown in color. The jaguar, a close relative of the panther which is found in Mexico and Central America, does have a black phase, as does the leopard which is found in Asia and Africa. The black panther is a myth, however, largely perpetuated by novelists, the movies and by those who confuse the jaguar or leopard with the panther.
There are no authenticated cases of truly melanistic cougars (pumas). Melanistic cougars have never been photographed or shot in the wild and none have ever been bred. There is wide consensus among breeders and biologists that the animal does not exist.[citation needed]
Black cougars have been reported in Kentucky and in the Carolinas. There have also been reports of glossy black cougars from Kansas, Texas and eastern Nebraska.[citation needed] These have come to be known as the "North American black panther". Sightings are currently attributed to errors in species identification by non-experts, and by the memetic exaggeration of size.
Black panthers in the American Southeast feature prominently in Choctaw folklore where, along with the owl, they are often thought to symbolize Death.
In his Histoire Naturelle (1749), Georges-Louis Leclerc, Comte de Buffon, wrote of the "Black Cougar"[6]:
I'm not sure how much clearer we can get that black cougars do not exist. There is more scientific evidence that ghosts and Big Foot exist over such a thing as a black cougar.
#99
Spike
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 42
You know. Someone once told me that a zorse was genetically impossible and it could not exist.
I guess some people have to see it to believe it.
Now I did want to say that I didn't mean to say that what I have seen is for a fact a panther. Again, we're close enough to South America that Jaguars wouldn't be surprising, plus there are a lot of exotic breeders in this country. I"m just saying a black large cat is not impossible ; ) . AGAIN though... without clear pictures we may never know.
I guess some people have to see it to believe it.
Now I did want to say that I didn't mean to say that what I have seen is for a fact a panther. Again, we're close enough to South America that Jaguars wouldn't be surprising, plus there are a lot of exotic breeders in this country. I"m just saying a black large cat is not impossible ; ) . AGAIN though... without clear pictures we may never know.
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