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.223 is enough for whitetail

Old 07-27-2010, 08:59 PM
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I think .223 is enough for whitetail. That's really as big as you want to push it though. If you have 30-30 is still more powerful and therefore you don't have less room for mistakes.

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Old 07-27-2010, 09:08 PM
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its enough but not recommended due to the fact that .223 is a varmint cartridge. But i have heard of people killin deer with it.
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Old 07-27-2010, 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by carldonova84 View Post

I think .223 is enough for whitetail. That's really as big as you want to push it though.
Wh Whu What? LOL! Sorry, I have to disagree there. I'd have no problem to "push it" to a bigger caliber. Below are my favorite deer calibers with the .260 being #1 & #2 being the .243...

* .260 Remington
* .243
* .257Roberts
* 6mm
* 7mm-08
* .270

They are all bigger than the .223. Now I don't have a problem using a .223 on deer. Matter o' fact, I reckon several will chime in and say they use that caliber often. Now the 30-30 takes a big chunk of the pie when it comes to piling up deer. It's not fancy, not a gun to use much over 200 yards, but does the job nicely.

Now if you meant the .223 is about as small as you want to push it, then that's different. A typo perhaps?

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Old 07-28-2010, 01:10 AM
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Old 07-28-2010, 05:36 AM
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I believe the real debate about the .223 for whitetail is bullet selection. Obviously a .22 caliber v-max shot into a whitetails body cavity probably isnt the answer. While an X bullet is another matter entirely.
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Old 07-28-2010, 05:50 AM
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Barnes Varmint Grenade, quartering-to shot, right through the shoulder of a 300lb buck.

Good choice if you have a concurrent black bear season as well.

If you need to stop a charge, I'd move up to the 55gr bullets.
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Old 07-28-2010, 06:28 AM
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Varmint Grenade?The name says it all.Barnes describes these as designed to explode on contact to minimize pelt damage.Hardly what you want for deer.While it's true deer have been taken with the .223 there are far better bullet designs than the VG.I wont use my .223 for deer.Most states have a .243 minimum for deer hunting with good reason.I wouldn't use the VG in .243 either
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http://barnesbullets.myshopify.com/c...rmint-grenade/
Barnes makes some of the finest premium bullets available.No argument there but Id look to their TSX or MRX for medium/big game as well as a .243 min.
http://barnesbullets.myshopify.com/c.../tsxtm-bullet/
http://barnesbullets.myshopify.com/c.../mrxtm-bullet/
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Old 07-28-2010, 07:01 AM
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at close range ( inside 100 yards), my buddy is tradin in his 30-06 fer a 223 because of meat damage, or a smaller hole were his words...the 223 will drop deer in their tracks using a "range round"..its always has been and always will be about shot placement...
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Old 07-28-2010, 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Bernie P. View Post
Varmint Grenade?The name says it all.Barnes describes these as designed to explode on contact to minimize pelt damage.Hardly what you want for deer.While it's true deer have been taken with the .223 there are far better bullet designs than the VG.I wont use my .223 for deer.Most states have a .243 minimum for deer hunting with good reason.I wouldn't use the VG in .243 either
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http://barnesbullets.myshopify.com/c...rmint-grenade/
Barnes makes some of the finest premium bullets available.No argument there but Id look to their TSX or MRX for medium/big game as well as a .243 min.
http://barnesbullets.myshopify.com/c.../tsxtm-bullet/
http://barnesbullets.myshopify.com/c.../mrxtm-bullet/
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Old 07-28-2010, 07:09 AM
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First off, I won't use a 223 for deer.

But here's a question that might help you answer.

If you was starving to death, and had a 223 with 55gr FMJ and a compound bow tipped with a broadhead. And you saw a deer at 40 yards, which would you grab?
 

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