Found Neighbors Stand On Property Line
02-02-2010, 12:38 PM
#51
Typical Buck
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 590
In my analogy, your neighbor could have built the gate simply because he likes gates. Or maybe he just wants to open the gate up and stand 1mm off the property line. Or maybe he is planning on buying your property if you ever sell it in the future, thereby owning two adjacent houses. But a realist would look at the situation and realize what is actually going on.
Given the fact that it would be illegal to shoot over the property line without permission, this guy has set up a stand in a way closes off 90% of his field of view unless he is planning on doing something illegal. Sure, he has a shooting lane which is directly parallel to the property line which makes up about 10% of his field of view. Of course, he could also make a shot on that 10% if he rotated his stand 180 degrees around the tree. So like I said, a realist will look at the situation and know what is going on.
All that being said, I really don't care that much since it isn't my land or my neighbor, so it really isn't worth any further debate for me.
02-02-2010, 01:16 PM
#52
Typical Buck
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 564
Well Stonewall, for the last 20+ years I have hunted out of a stand that can't be more then 6 inches on "my side" of the fence. Ther tree my ladder stand is attatched to is growing right out of "my side" of the fence. Never in the past 20+ years have I ever shot on the other side of the fence. I easily wait on the deer coming down that beaten down trail to step into the field and pull the trigger. Not a second sooner. Am I too close at 6 inches???
02-03-2010, 03:25 AM
#53
Dominant Buck
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Ramsey , Indiana
Posts: 22,545
What difference does it make if he owns it? He paid for the lease, so he owns the hunting rights. Technically, unless his neighbor has completely paid off the bank, he doesn't own his property either.
Let me make an analogy. Your neighbor builds a fence across his back yard, and he puts a gate in the fence that only leads on to your property. The only place to go once you walk through the gate is onto your private property. Clearly there is nothing legally stopping him from making the gate, but the only reason he has done it is to be able to easily tresspass on your land.
It is the same situation here - what the neighbor has actually done isn't illegal, but the only purpose for doing it is to be able to do something illegal at some undetermined point in the future.
Let me make an analogy. Your neighbor builds a fence across his back yard, and he puts a gate in the fence that only leads on to your property. The only place to go once you walk through the gate is onto your private property. Clearly there is nothing legally stopping him from making the gate, but the only reason he has done it is to be able to easily tresspass on your land.
It is the same situation here - what the neighbor has actually done isn't illegal, but the only purpose for doing it is to be able to do something illegal at some undetermined point in the future.
Another analogy: You're my neighbor and you build a fence between us with a gate placed so that it's only possible purpose would be to allow you to enter my property at will. That's cool, but be sure to pat my Rottweiler on the head as you pass his house.
02-03-2010, 05:12 AM
#54
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 1,304
"By "whiner", of whom to you specifically reference?"
iSnipe
02-03-2010, 07:04 AM
#55
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,926
I'll take an alternative opinion
First, is this really the place where a deer would leave your property and enter their property? Is it an absolute that the deer would travel this route? Some tree stands hung prove to be a waste of time. Some tree stands might give valuable information.
Why there's nothing for you to cover the egress; 100 hidden yards to the right; 100 hidden yards to the left; 100 hidden yards from the tree stand on your property line.
Why the neighbor might have made a big mistake. Letting you know where the deer are coming onto his property from your property.
You do get to harvest the deer on your property, don't you.
Why there's nothing for you to cover the egress; 100 hidden yards to the right; 100 hidden yards to the left; 100 hidden yards from the tree stand on your property line.
Why the neighbor might have made a big mistake. Letting you know where the deer are coming onto his property from your property.
You do get to harvest the deer on your property, don't you.
02-03-2010, 07:45 AM
#57
Spike
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: North Alabama
Posts: 13
Wow. I go out of town for a few days and this thread explodes into something much more than I had anticipated.
'Whiner boy'...real mature Kevin1. For the record, I'm a 42 year old man and I lease the property from a good friend. We have permission to do whatever we want to with the land as it relates to deer hunting. I don't have a photo of the stand that is 10' off of the line, but I also didn't realize that I was in federal court. I said 10' because it's 10'. Why would I lie?
As I said in my original post, I know that the neighbor is not doing anything illegal..that's not my beef. My concern is that based on the lay of the land, the majority of shots that he will take will be in our direction. Sure, he can shoot left or right of the stand, along the fence. No question. And for all I know, he'll never shoot at anything across the fence. His stand is on top of a rise in the land and the direction he is facing is down hill towards us. Because we just found this stand recently, we now realize that we have 2 stands approximately 75-100 yards below him. If he is gun hunting, I'm not comfortable being in his 'shooting window' if he just can't help it and shoots at the big 10 point that he sees across the line.
I asked for some suggestions and the overwhelming majority say to make friends with the guy and I agree that it makes the most sense. Even if he doesn't move the stand, I want him to know that we have people that might be below him on any given day and he needs to honor the property line.
Thanks for all the feedback.
'Whiner boy'...real mature Kevin1. For the record, I'm a 42 year old man and I lease the property from a good friend. We have permission to do whatever we want to with the land as it relates to deer hunting. I don't have a photo of the stand that is 10' off of the line, but I also didn't realize that I was in federal court. I said 10' because it's 10'. Why would I lie?
As I said in my original post, I know that the neighbor is not doing anything illegal..that's not my beef. My concern is that based on the lay of the land, the majority of shots that he will take will be in our direction. Sure, he can shoot left or right of the stand, along the fence. No question. And for all I know, he'll never shoot at anything across the fence. His stand is on top of a rise in the land and the direction he is facing is down hill towards us. Because we just found this stand recently, we now realize that we have 2 stands approximately 75-100 yards below him. If he is gun hunting, I'm not comfortable being in his 'shooting window' if he just can't help it and shoots at the big 10 point that he sees across the line.
I asked for some suggestions and the overwhelming majority say to make friends with the guy and I agree that it makes the most sense. Even if he doesn't move the stand, I want him to know that we have people that might be below him on any given day and he needs to honor the property line.
Thanks for all the feedback.
02-03-2010, 01:25 PM
#58
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 1,304
singleshot1,
I guess my remark I was going to say to some, is that their ignorance is once again showing by their responses. Many here reply as if you had a specific agenda or that you carried some thoughts of the situation that clearly were not yours. People have a terrible way of misinterpreting what they are reading, then create a reply based on something that is not the truth or the way it is to begin with. Just goes to show some people should read more carefully before they reply. I see these kinds of posts on here many times.
G'day.
iSnipe
I guess my remark I was going to say to some, is that their ignorance is once again showing by their responses. Many here reply as if you had a specific agenda or that you carried some thoughts of the situation that clearly were not yours. People have a terrible way of misinterpreting what they are reading, then create a reply based on something that is not the truth or the way it is to begin with. Just goes to show some people should read more carefully before they reply. I see these kinds of posts on here many times.
G'day.
iSnipe
02-03-2010, 02:57 PM
#59
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Southeast Missouri
Posts: 2,178
Lots of interesting replies...to say the least! 
I will tell You an interesting story about a guy that was allowed to Hunt on a Land Owners Property.He had the run of the place for several years,then one day the Land Owner let another one of his (the Land Owner's) Friends hunt there also as a favor,the other Hunter complained and complained about the other Hunter being there and how the other guys stand was too close (200-250 yads) from his stand etc...etc....The Land Owner got tired of the first Hunter's complaining that he ended up kicking him off his land and the Neighboring Land Owner also quit letting the first original Hunter hunt on his land also.So watch out how you treat other people,be honest and helpful to other Hunters or you could be on the outside looking in!
Moral of the Story:
Some times the squeekiest wheel gets all the oil...and sometimes it gets removed and replaced!
I will tell You an interesting story about a guy that was allowed to Hunt on a Land Owners Property.He had the run of the place for several years,then one day the Land Owner let another one of his (the Land Owner's) Friends hunt there also as a favor,the other Hunter complained and complained about the other Hunter being there and how the other guys stand was too close (200-250 yads) from his stand etc...etc....The Land Owner got tired of the first Hunter's complaining that he ended up kicking him off his land and the Neighboring Land Owner also quit letting the first original Hunter hunt on his land also.So watch out how you treat other people,be honest and helpful to other Hunters or you could be on the outside looking in!
Moral of the Story:
Some times the squeekiest wheel gets all the oil...and sometimes it gets removed and replaced!
02-03-2010, 08:08 PM
#60
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Ponce de Leon Florida USA
Posts: 10,079
Hang a dozen or so aluminum pie plates on limbs on your side of the property line so they flash in the breeze. Probably won't bother the deer long term, but the other hunter won't be able to stand it.