View Poll Results: which caliber do you for hunting deer in open hardwoods
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which caliber???????
01-28-2010, 12:30 PM
#23
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 1,304
Given only the 3 choices, I'd definitely go with the .270. Given my choice, I'd say the .260, my favorite deer caliber.
I believe the .243 is the most underrated deer caliber out there with people calling it a "ladies" gun or "kid's" gun.
The .243 can retain almost 1,000 ft lbs. of energy at 500 yards. That's some "kid's" gun! LOL!
iSnipe
I believe the .243 is the most underrated deer caliber out there with people calling it a "ladies" gun or "kid's" gun.
The .243 can retain almost 1,000 ft lbs. of energy at 500 yards. That's some "kid's" gun! LOL!
iSnipe
01-30-2010, 06:18 AM
#27
Banned
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: South Cackalaky
Posts: 124
It depends on how open the hardwoods are. If they're pines scattered then
you may want to go 30-06, since it will smash right through. If it's
mainly mature timber then go with the 300 WinMag in case you have a deer
thats partly behind a tree. Then is can go through part of it. If the
woods are mixed use a 30-06 that will kinda do most. If the trees aren't
really mature, but thick, make sure you use something that has a shorter
barrel. 24" is too much for dense hardwoods, but not semi-dense. If its
semi dense with pines you'll need a 22" barrel in probably the fore
mentioned 30-06. If its really dense, you have to get a brush buster in
45-70, 35 Rem, or 444 marlin. Maybe the new 30 something Marlin "Lever
Revolution". 375 Winchester is good too, but don't get it confused with
the 375 H&H, which is good for dense brush, but dangerous game. Now if
the trees are just hardwood and spaced more than 20' apart, then a 270
would work. Make sure though, that you use 110's if you are standing in a
field shooting into open hardwoods. If you are actually standing in the
hardwoods then go with 130's in case there may be a sapling or two that
you'll have to shoot through. Yep, pretty stupid question, repeated
weekly and answered religiously by geniuses. You failed to mention the
actual species of hardwoods as they would dictate whether or not you
needed Nosler partitions or Accubonds. Don't mess with Lapuas. Now,
Sellier and Bellot makes a nice roundnose 270 that works pretty good, but
no one trusts foreign ammo. So the real answer to your question is this. Scratch out the 300 WinMag since you are asking the question, you probably dont have the experience to shoot such a round. So whats left is the 270 and the 30=06. considereing that 99.9% of deer are shot at less than 100 yards it wont make two craps of diiference between the two. if you get a 30-06 you get the pat on the back from all the old timers about that was their daddys war rifle and all the good memories they had with it. But your buddies will laugh at you because "thats just a regualar old bullet" and its nothing new. if you get a 270 you buds will swear you love Jack oconnor. then they'll say, well them 130's are way to light for a deer, dont you want a bangflop. you dont get a bangflop with 130's. you need at least 180's for a bangflop.
So, go get a 300 WinMag, and be careful about getting a black eye from the scope. It's what all the cool kids are using these days.
you may want to go 30-06, since it will smash right through. If it's
mainly mature timber then go with the 300 WinMag in case you have a deer
thats partly behind a tree. Then is can go through part of it. If the
woods are mixed use a 30-06 that will kinda do most. If the trees aren't
really mature, but thick, make sure you use something that has a shorter
barrel. 24" is too much for dense hardwoods, but not semi-dense. If its
semi dense with pines you'll need a 22" barrel in probably the fore
mentioned 30-06. If its really dense, you have to get a brush buster in
45-70, 35 Rem, or 444 marlin. Maybe the new 30 something Marlin "Lever
Revolution". 375 Winchester is good too, but don't get it confused with
the 375 H&H, which is good for dense brush, but dangerous game. Now if
the trees are just hardwood and spaced more than 20' apart, then a 270
would work. Make sure though, that you use 110's if you are standing in a
field shooting into open hardwoods. If you are actually standing in the
hardwoods then go with 130's in case there may be a sapling or two that
you'll have to shoot through. Yep, pretty stupid question, repeated
weekly and answered religiously by geniuses. You failed to mention the
actual species of hardwoods as they would dictate whether or not you
needed Nosler partitions or Accubonds. Don't mess with Lapuas. Now,
Sellier and Bellot makes a nice roundnose 270 that works pretty good, but
no one trusts foreign ammo. So the real answer to your question is this. Scratch out the 300 WinMag since you are asking the question, you probably dont have the experience to shoot such a round. So whats left is the 270 and the 30=06. considereing that 99.9% of deer are shot at less than 100 yards it wont make two craps of diiference between the two. if you get a 30-06 you get the pat on the back from all the old timers about that was their daddys war rifle and all the good memories they had with it. But your buddies will laugh at you because "thats just a regualar old bullet" and its nothing new. if you get a 270 you buds will swear you love Jack oconnor. then they'll say, well them 130's are way to light for a deer, dont you want a bangflop. you dont get a bangflop with 130's. you need at least 180's for a bangflop.
So, go get a 300 WinMag, and be careful about getting a black eye from the scope. It's what all the cool kids are using these days.
01-30-2010, 07:20 AM
#28
Banned
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 824
It depends on how open the hardwoods are. If they're pines scattered then
you may want to go 30-06, since it will smash right through. If it's
mainly mature timber then go with the 300 WinMag in case you have a deer
thats partly behind a tree. Then is can go through part of it. If the
woods are mixed use a 30-06 that will kinda do most. If the trees aren't
really mature, but thick, make sure you use something that has a shorter
barrel. 24" is too much for dense hardwoods, but not semi-dense. If its
semi dense with pines you'll need a 22" barrel in probably the fore
mentioned 30-06. If its really dense, you have to get a brush buster in
45-70, 35 Rem, or 444 marlin. Maybe the new 30 something Marlin "Lever
Revolution". 375 Winchester is good too, but don't get it confused with
the 375 H&H, which is good for dense brush, but dangerous game. Now if
the trees are just hardwood and spaced more than 20' apart, then a 270
would work. Make sure though, that you use 110's if you are standing in a
field shooting into open hardwoods. If you are actually standing in the
hardwoods then go with 130's in case there may be a sapling or two that
you'll have to shoot through. Yep, pretty stupid question, repeated
weekly and answered religiously by geniuses. You failed to mention the
actual species of hardwoods as they would dictate whether or not you
needed Nosler partitions or Accubonds. Don't mess with Lapuas. Now,
Sellier and Bellot makes a nice roundnose 270 that works pretty good, but
no one trusts foreign ammo. So the real answer to your question is this. Scratch out the 300 WinMag since you are asking the question, you probably dont have the experience to shoot such a round. So whats left is the 270 and the 30=06. considereing that 99.9% of deer are shot at less than 100 yards it wont make two craps of diiference between the two. if you get a 30-06 you get the pat on the back from all the old timers about that was their daddys war rifle and all the good memories they had with it. But your buddies will laugh at you because "thats just a regualar old bullet" and its nothing new. if you get a 270 you buds will swear you love Jack oconnor. then they'll say, well them 130's are way to light for a deer, dont you want a bangflop. you dont get a bangflop with 130's. you need at least 180's for a bangflop.
So, go get a 300 WinMag, and be careful about getting a black eye from the scope. It's what all the cool kids are using these days.
you may want to go 30-06, since it will smash right through. If it's
mainly mature timber then go with the 300 WinMag in case you have a deer
thats partly behind a tree. Then is can go through part of it. If the
woods are mixed use a 30-06 that will kinda do most. If the trees aren't
really mature, but thick, make sure you use something that has a shorter
barrel. 24" is too much for dense hardwoods, but not semi-dense. If its
semi dense with pines you'll need a 22" barrel in probably the fore
mentioned 30-06. If its really dense, you have to get a brush buster in
45-70, 35 Rem, or 444 marlin. Maybe the new 30 something Marlin "Lever
Revolution". 375 Winchester is good too, but don't get it confused with
the 375 H&H, which is good for dense brush, but dangerous game. Now if
the trees are just hardwood and spaced more than 20' apart, then a 270
would work. Make sure though, that you use 110's if you are standing in a
field shooting into open hardwoods. If you are actually standing in the
hardwoods then go with 130's in case there may be a sapling or two that
you'll have to shoot through. Yep, pretty stupid question, repeated
weekly and answered religiously by geniuses. You failed to mention the
actual species of hardwoods as they would dictate whether or not you
needed Nosler partitions or Accubonds. Don't mess with Lapuas. Now,
Sellier and Bellot makes a nice roundnose 270 that works pretty good, but
no one trusts foreign ammo. So the real answer to your question is this. Scratch out the 300 WinMag since you are asking the question, you probably dont have the experience to shoot such a round. So whats left is the 270 and the 30=06. considereing that 99.9% of deer are shot at less than 100 yards it wont make two craps of diiference between the two. if you get a 30-06 you get the pat on the back from all the old timers about that was their daddys war rifle and all the good memories they had with it. But your buddies will laugh at you because "thats just a regualar old bullet" and its nothing new. if you get a 270 you buds will swear you love Jack oconnor. then they'll say, well them 130's are way to light for a deer, dont you want a bangflop. you dont get a bangflop with 130's. you need at least 180's for a bangflop.
So, go get a 300 WinMag, and be careful about getting a black eye from the scope. It's what all the cool kids are using these days.
I say it won't matter at all. I've never seen a deer walk away with a well placed bullet...
Get the best deal and move on.
01-31-2010, 06:26 PM
#30
Fork Horn
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 214
I highly recommend any round that comes from the .30 caliber family!!! I personally have a .270 but have kicked around the idea of goin with a .308 which again is the .30 caliber family... Just so long as you put it in the heart/lung area the round doesnt matter...