Invent a hunting product?
 

Did you ever think about, or try to invent or improve a hunting related product? I would really like to come up with a patent for the perfect climber. IMO all the ones currently on the market leave something to be desired.

For a patent to be valid, the invention needs to be novel and non-obvious. It will cost $5000 or more to get the patent. Just because the patent is granted, does not in any way guarantee that the patent is actually valid or enforceable.

When someone violates your patent, you will need to fork over the cash to take the violator to court. Only in court will your patent be fully validated. If it is valid, you win and hopefully recover something from the violator. If it is invalid, you're out everything.

The patent system is far from perfect. Myself and a couple buddies came up with multiple good ideas one night over a case of beer while I was in business school. After weighing the positives and negatives, we decided it was likely not worth the effort unless you were willing to tolerate a LOT of risk.

good point, i guess i dont so much care about protecting the patent as much as i would just like to come up w/ the perfect design to sell to some manufacturer. i think theres alot of hunters out there looking for a better climbing treestand, i would like to come up with a design that adresses all the problems of the ones currently on the market. i really have no idea where to start, but its still fun to think about

let's team up....

big problem in my view with any hunting product is reaching the masses...

# of hunters is not many when compared to # of people in the US.

how many people hunt in the US?
there are 300million people in the US.

we already have tons of treestands, and I agree many are garbage, plain junk that work but not well.

also my climber works just fine, so how much of an improvement could there be?
2nd tons of hunters don't even use stands, and those that do many only use ladderstands.

so you're invention I would say doesn't apply to a huge population, so to reap profits...good luck

less you created an entire stand company....i dunno, I have plenty of stand ideas though....lets form a stand company, ill do the ladders, you do the climber...

a 100% quitet at all times climber would be great...or scent elimination clothing that eliminated 100% of odors would be great to

gee i dont know about starting stand company, the insurance premiums alone are scary to think about and how would we fund this venture?(um broke:() sounds like a blast though, ill kept it in mind. im still trying to come up w/ the perfect design.

I'm amazed that the existing businesses out there selling hunting gear have never thought of this. ;)

An arrow built stronger meaning less flex, fly straighter, and have a more powerful hit at impact. A stronger, tighter arrow would be what I would go for. Or maybe a ribbed arrow to increase aerodynamics. . . . . . . .:eek2:
BigBuck95:patriot:

There certainly is alot of junk out there makes you think who's designing/building it.

Cheaper sells though, when guys stop buying junk and would rather pay full price for quality vs. discounted on junk maybe it'll change.

I too wonder about quiet gear....do they test this stuff in cold temps? stuff maybe quiet at room temp but at 20degrees its like a trashbag in the wind.

some junk stands i've owned have been built with such small gauge steel no wonder they squeaked with 200lbs on them....on an angled tree in freezing temps.

every new stand I buy is a ladderstand, with a flipup seat, arm rests, shooting rail, big standing platform. (not sure how bowhunters can shoot 360degrees off a 9"x12" platform???)
You'd be surprised how few options with this setup there are out there...

yeah take for example the equalizer climber, it obviously a well made product and it gets pretty good reviews, but you would think w/ all the R&D they claim went into the design, they couldve come up w/ a better cranking device than that stupid plastic handle that protrudes out from the side. not to mention its not a very roomy stand, but it still weighs 20 -24 lbs! they couldnt shave some weight off that thing?


Im thinking theres gotta be a way to adjust the leveling of a climber w/out messing w/ the actual cables themselves. :confused:

why do guys love climbers so much?

I must do completely different hunting...

I can understand if you're hunting public land where you can't put up a stand for more than 1 day, aside from that? or if you're a new guy with just 1 stand.

Most people I know who hunt deer in the midwest hunt private land, with multiple stands they just leave out in place....

Well let me say that I own a 2 person ladder stand and a Summit classic climber. My climber is so much more comfortible than the ladder stand it's not even funny.

The thing I would do to change climber's to make them better would be make them lighter. maybe a different kind of metal.

yes lighter would be better . maybe not metal at all resin or i was reading something about carbon nano tubes or something like that . well it is suppose to be a lot stronger than steel but lighter than aluminium . Probably would cost to much but it would be nice

You could construct the stand like the do bikes out of carbon fiber, but who will pay $3000 or more for an ultralight treestand??

Patents
 

$5000?! I don't think so. I'm going through it right now on a non-hunting product. It will cost $20K+ trust me. You can do a provisional patent for a couple hundred yourself to buy you time (1 year from date of filing) to work out details and file for the regular Nonprovisional patent. That's when the money begins to flow.

To do it without a patent attourney is crazy...but possible. You need someone who knows that system bacause it is very confusing and just about everything gets denied the patent on the initial submission for whatever reason.

I have an idea for a hunting accessory product right now and might try to patent but don't really have the money to do it. (No I'm not tellin yet) Probably will get a provisional on it before making it public to try to gauge demand.

A lot of times people have ideas and do nothin about it. Might be a huge hit or a flop. Only one way to find out.

Over the years, I have "come up" with a number of ideas that seemed like a great idea at the time (but of course did not follow through on a patent...not even sure if I could on some of them)...only to have one company or another come out with basically that item...(now why didn't I file that patent)...

One of the last ones was an idea for a new style of muzzleloader...I was looking at my vintage 1863 (actually a 1874 production) and thinking about how it could be converted to a muzzleloader...easy enough to do since the 45-70 is basically a straight case...but since the Springfield is a trapdoor you could not mount a scope...THAT IS NO GOOD...

So what about a Farqahrson falling block design (like a Ruger No 1 in .45-70). Thread the chamber to accept a breach plug and you have a sealed system using 209 primers with an elegant 45 cal barrel that will easily withstand any reasonable (and being a Ruger probably most unreasonable) powder charges. And still be able to mount a scope on top.

Yeah...except the Ruger No 1 is a fairly expensive rifle.

Anyway I told my family and hunting buddies about it, then about 2 years later, TC comes out with the Omega...

Oh well, back to the drawing board...

Yep, there is an old saying; Light, Strong, Cheap, pick two!