223 enough gun for deer
10-14-2009, 02:22 PM
#21
Spike
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 16
It is definately enough if he hits it where he needs to. I would not use a hollow point, because if he would happen to hit the shoulder it will probably not punch through. Just make sure that he is comfortable and accurate with the rifle.
10-15-2009, 03:57 AM
#23
Fork Horn
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Rockingham Co, VA
Posts: 156
The recoil factor on a 7lb. .223 with a 55gr. bullet is 22.4.
The recoil factor of a 100 or less can be fired by anyone that can shoot a rifle. Factors of 100 to 200 are considered "moderate" and 200 to 300 is "moderately heavy". 300 to 400 is "heavy" and goes on up to 3,000 on your magnum calibers.
I don't think one needs a "managed recoil" on a .223.
iSnipe
The recoil factor of a 100 or less can be fired by anyone that can shoot a rifle. Factors of 100 to 200 are considered "moderate" and 200 to 300 is "moderately heavy". 300 to 400 is "heavy" and goes on up to 3,000 on your magnum calibers.
I don't think one needs a "managed recoil" on a .223.
iSnipe
a .277 caliber bullet that weighs in at 115gr. Bigger cross section and heavier bullet than a 223 and VERY light recoil.
10-15-2009, 07:19 AM
#25
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: The Republic of Texas
Posts: 12,040
.223 will work, IF, he waits for the right shot, and executes the right shot properly. The Remington Managed Recoil ammo, or a .243 are better choices.
10-15-2009, 01:16 PM
#27
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 1,304
With the .243 using a typical 100gr. psp bullet and the .270 with it's 115gr. managed recoil psp, I see the energy in foot pounds is 3.75% greater at the muzzle with the .243 over the .270. Interesting.
iSnipe
10-15-2009, 03:45 PM
#28
Typical Buck
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 564
Best response yet. Just cause it can doesn't qualify it as something you should use. Much better choices for kids IMO like the 243, 45 cal muzzleloader or even a .357 lever action,
10-15-2009, 04:29 PM
#29
Fork Horn
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: NC
Posts: 113
"The smallest rifle I have is a 223... "
Whats the next smallest?
For a small framed, short armed person, I'd lean more
towards what fits and feels good to them.
Shoots some targets with whatever guns you think might work.
Might surprise you what he can shoot.
I know the .223 would work fine for most shots (assuming its legal).
Several of my peers use various .22hi-powered rounds.
Figure that most deer are well within 100yds when shot.
For me though, I just don't want to face the biggest deer of my lifetime, presenting a poor shot angle(for caliber), with the smallest gun in my cabinet. I know that's how it'd happen for me.
Whats the next smallest?
For a small framed, short armed person, I'd lean more
towards what fits and feels good to them.
Shoots some targets with whatever guns you think might work.
Might surprise you what he can shoot.
I know the .223 would work fine for most shots (assuming its legal).
Several of my peers use various .22hi-powered rounds.
Figure that most deer are well within 100yds when shot.
For me though, I just don't want to face the biggest deer of my lifetime, presenting a poor shot angle(for caliber), with the smallest gun in my cabinet. I know that's how it'd happen for me.
