This guy makes me sick
09-04-2009, 06:20 PM
#31
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Pine Hill Alabama USA
Posts: 1,280
I don't have any problem with the killing of deer in these high fence places being legal anymore than I have a problem with a farmer slaughtering one of his domesticated hogs. I just have a problem with it being called "HUNTING". Because it's not.
09-04-2009, 09:28 PM
#32
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: NW Oklahoma
Posts: 1,166
I think there is a lot more of this on the hunting shows than you might think. Some shows just aren't as blatant as others. Another example is baiting. You think deer just walk up to a tree at random and start eating out of the dry grass? Instead of a feeder, they scatter it in the grass. They think we're stupid.
09-06-2009, 03:51 AM
#36
Typical Buck
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Central PA
Posts: 829
I watched his show called "The High Road" In the beginning it shows hunters arguing over High fence or No high Fence, etc. and then it states one man is bridging the divide= Keith Warren.
He is a joke, the last episode was filmed at a High fence/ free ranging preserve near State College Pa.As soon as they said Pa I knew it was high fence. His wife shot a caged deer and they turned it into a 1/2 hour killing show. He also advised a viewer who wrote in about buck to doe ratio to kill every doe off his property until he didn't see anymore and then shoot more if possible. This shows he hunts high fence almost exclusively
because someone trying to raise big buck and not have any doe on his property isn't going to keep buck around for long without a high fence.
He is a joke, the last episode was filmed at a High fence/ free ranging preserve near State College Pa.As soon as they said Pa I knew it was high fence. His wife shot a caged deer and they turned it into a 1/2 hour killing show. He also advised a viewer who wrote in about buck to doe ratio to kill every doe off his property until he didn't see anymore and then shoot more if possible. This shows he hunts high fence almost exclusively
because someone trying to raise big buck and not have any doe on his property isn't going to keep buck around for long without a high fence.
09-06-2009, 04:11 AM
#37
Typical Buck
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Central PA
Posts: 829
As far as picking the deer you want to shoot, in my opinion it is no different with or without the fence if you pay to hunt a ranch.
Even without the fence the hunting outfitters know what deer are there and where they are. All you do is go to a stand that they placed and watch a procession of deer walk by until you see the one you are looking for and shoot it.
Even without the fence the hunting outfitters know what deer are there and where they are. All you do is go to a stand that they placed and watch a procession of deer walk by until you see the one you are looking for and shoot it.
The fact that these TV host hunt these hunts in most cases does not discredit them, because they do have years of experience. The simple fact is people want to watch big bucks get shot on TV and DVD and you are most likely not going to have a shot at a big buck or elk on public land too often. If you absolutely cannot stand "canned" hunting or hunting at outfitters try to find a show called the best and worst of Tred Barta. The guy is a radical primitive hunter and often fails on his shows. He may use outfitters in Alaska, but I think non residents must hunt with a guide in that state and he uses primitive archery equipment, sometime with stone arrow heads.
09-06-2009, 04:22 AM
#38
Typical Buck
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Carbon County Pa.
Posts: 601
I would say they are both as equal of a challange. A friend invited me on one of these canned pig hunts a few years back. I treated it as a big party and you get to shoot a pig out of it. Some guys showed up all camoed and sentlocked up and took it very seriously. It was 400 acres with about 100+ pigs running around, can you beleive some guys couldn't score.
09-06-2009, 04:53 AM
#39
Little Doe Peep
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Japan
Posts: 14,945
I pretty much agree with you here. But I think it's a mistake to set these guys aside as non-hunters and what they do as NOT hunting. It's one thing to think it, but when we create a division within a group of people who see themselves as "hunters," we play into the hands of the anti-hunting crowd. We have a heck of a lot more in common with the "high fence hunting" guys than we do with PETA or any other anti-hunting group.
09-06-2009, 06:24 AM
#40
Dominant Buck
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: On an Island in Vermont
Posts: 22,605
I am against anything other than fair chase hunting. I wouldn't participate and nobody I know or hunt with would either. This type of activity even where legal isn't in the best interest of true sportsmen.