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Northernboghunter 08-18-2009 06:01 PM

Boone and Crockett size bucks on any property???
 
I saw this on ebay. Have any of you ever heard of this handbook?

http://cgi.ebay.com/The-Pond-Approac...d=p3286.c0.m14

Bob S 08-19-2009 04:20 AM

From the description, it sounds like he is going to tell you to put a high fence around your property.

crokit 08-19-2009 04:23 AM

Canned venison. :evil:

Northernboghunter 08-19-2009 08:08 AM

Yeah...looks like you are right. It's just that I have been trying to get some larger bucks on my place for the last 35 years. We have 300+ acres and we try to shoot only 3 year old plus bucks and older does. In all that time the largest buck we have gotten is a 119 inch 8 point! We have 30 acres of food plots we even have one neighbor that owns 500 acres somewhat on board..they only shoot 6 points and up. Everything else around is state ground in which it is strictly brown down!! We just can't seem to keep the two year old bucks on the property. They all die on the state ground. I would really like to shoot or at least see a 130 inch on the property is that so much to ask??? If anyone has any ideas please tell me. I feel like I have tried almost everything..even high fencing is starting to look like an option.....

salukipv1 08-19-2009 08:17 AM

I've heard tis before, that a booner whitetail is the easiest animal to take to qualify for the bc system, psssh, not so IMO!

I've been on 1 black bear hunt, my bear almost went BC, went on my dads buffalo hunt, his buff goes BC, etc..etc...

live in one of if not the greatest whitetail states, and hunt a quality area with quality bucks roaming the region, not sure about our property, im sure a bc passes through the prop annually.

its one thing to know a bc exists on yoru land, its another to harvest him, also with trail cams etc...we really see or catch 140+ deeron it, I think our land is more of a pass through kinda place.

We pass countless small bucks too, I think pressure/trespassers don't help either. If it were so easy we'd be doing better IMO. But we're kinda limited in our approach, least on this farm. If you don't own the land...

Edcyclopedia 08-19-2009 08:26 AM

Food is great and is indeed a necessity...

However, mature bucks stay bedded +90% of the daylight hours.
I would rather hunt the staging areas were "BUCKS" are bedding and save the food plots for the rut!!!

crokit 08-19-2009 08:30 AM


Originally Posted by Northernboghunter (Post 3412568)
Yeah...looks like you are right. It's just that I have been trying to get some larger bucks on my place for the last 35 years. We have 300+ acres and we try to shoot only 3 year old plus bucks and older does. In all that time the largest buck we have gotten is a 119 inch 8 point! We have 30 acres of food plots we even have one neighbor that owns 500 acres somewhat on board..they only shoot 6 points and up. Everything else around is state ground in which it is strictly brown down!! We just can't seem to keep the two year old bucks on the property. They all die on the state ground. I would really like to shoot or at least see a 130 inch on the property is that so much to ask??? If anyone has any ideas please tell me. I feel like I have tried almost everything..even high fencing is starting to look like an option.....


The amount of land you state, between the two properties, is to small to KEEP deer there, especially when the second new moon after the fall solstice is upon us.:p:jaw:. { Some folks will get that, lol }. If you want a better chance at it, create/designate a huge portion of your property to sanctuary with almost impenetrable cover. It will at least improve your chances, IMHO


P.S. Your neighbor shooting 6pt. and up, isn't doing you any favors, though.

srwshooter 08-19-2009 10:38 AM

whether he's a b&c or not means nothing to me,i'm hunting the biggest bucks on any property i hunt on. once i kill the dominate buck i'm happy,he may score 160 or 110. i don't really care. i don't use trail cams,feed protien or anything else,i just enjoy the hunt and the suprise when a monster comes thru the crosshairs. my main thing is to be there,i will every day for a solid month if i have to. during the rut i'm there everyday ,all day.

Northernboghunter 08-19-2009 02:43 PM

I agree it's wonderful getting the biggest buck there is no matter how big he may be, but I always feel a tad sad that the small bucks we see never make it to their full potential. I mean seeing a true Boone and Crockett is almost a miracle and I understand that. But shouldn't a Pope and Young animal be at least possiable in a few decades of effort and more money put into it than I would like to admit. Alot of the property is to thick of regrowth to even walk through is that what you mean by cover?

teedub31 08-19-2009 03:12 PM

300 acres is not enough to manage with any degree of success as far as producing BC bucks. That is not even 1/2 of a square mile. When a deer can range 3 or 4 square miles, you have way to much ground going against you to "manage" for big booner deer.

jrbsr 08-19-2009 03:26 PM


Originally Posted by Northernboghunter (Post 3411940)
I saw this on ebay. Have any of you ever heard of this handbook?

http://cgi.ebay.com/The-Pond-Approac...d=p3286.c0.m14

You need to pick a spot on your land ,that the deer can go without preasure.
A spot that no one even walks on.
And put up No Hunting signs, in that spot.
A safe place for the deer to go to.
Then you can get some older bucks to stay on your land.

JMHO

crokit 08-19-2009 03:45 PM


Originally Posted by Northernboghunter (Post 3413122)
......... Alot of the property is to thick of regrowth to even walk through is that what you mean by cover?


Yes, that is what I mean by cover. I will all but guarantee that the cover you speak of, if it is like no other around, and the pressure is on, the mature buck know about it and will use it. A mature buck, once it uses an escape route successfully, will NEVER forget it. Same with safe haven cover. The more of it, the better. As I said earlier, create a safe haven sanctuary, and they'll find it.

Northernboghunter 08-20-2009 02:32 PM

bye bye buck hunting
 
I went ahead asking the neighbor if he would let more of smaller bucks go by this year. He informed me that two of his crew were out of work this year(six hunt the 5oo acres) so they would be shooting alot more deer this year so as to get more meat on the table for these two guys. He said would have about 14 tags to fill and wasn't going to be picky. Buck, doe or fawn would do for it. I have a feeling that this year is going to slim pickings indeed. Has anyone else run into this?

J Pike 08-21-2009 10:40 AM

crokit is right on the money dont worry about the food, convert as much of your property to sanctuary as you can and then never enter it except maybe once or twice in the winter or if you have to track a wounded deer thru them etc.
But I think one of the most important things you should be doing on your property if you want to see more P&Y class bucks etc. is to not harvest any buck unless it is a P&Y class buck. Pike

Edcyclopedia 08-21-2009 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by Northernboghunter (Post 3414404)
I went ahead asking the neighbor if he would let more of smaller bucks go by this year. He informed me that two of his crew were out of work this year(six hunt the 5oo acres) so they would be shooting alot more deer this year so as to get more meat on the table for these two guys. He said would have about 14 tags to fill and wasn't going to be picky. Buck, doe or fawn would do for it. I have a feeling that this year is going to slim pickings indeed. Has anyone else run into this?

Well it sounds like you have a terrible choice to make... Either shoot something that will make you happy, before the neighbor does or work on your deer management. Good luck!

srwshooter 08-22-2009 04:10 AM


Originally Posted by Northernboghunter (Post 3414404)
I went ahead asking the neighbor if he would let more of smaller bucks go by this year. He informed me that two of his crew were out of work this year(six hunt the 5oo acres) so they would be shooting alot more deer this year so as to get more meat on the table for these two guys. He said would have about 14 tags to fill and wasn't going to be picky. Buck, doe or fawn would do for it. I have a feeling that this year is going to slim pickings indeed. Has anyone else run into this?


this is normal for most area's here in va. most hunters are meat hunters first,trophy hunters second. still the big bucks manage to survive,do your homework and be there when the big bucks move. i find spending lots of time in the stand pays off.

the thing that helps us here is we are on the shenandoah national park boundry, its a big buck factory . some of those bucks always wonder on to the nearby farms.

ropadop 08-22-2009 06:56 AM


Originally Posted by Northernboghunter (Post 3414404)
I went ahead asking the neighbor if he would let more of smaller bucks go by this year. He informed me that two of his crew were out of work this year(six hunt the 5oo acres) so they would be shooting alot more deer this year so as to get more meat on the table for these two guys. He said would have about 14 tags to fill and wasn't going to be picky. Buck, doe or fawn would do for it. I have a feeling that this year is going to slim pickings indeed. Has anyone else run into this?

Same problems in PA. Many guys purposefully get laid off for the deer season. We have antler restrictions of 4 pts to one side, but it doesn't help too much because almost every 1 1/2 year old is legal. I have tried to pass on both 1 1/2 year old and 2 1/2 year old bucks in archery season each fall, only to have them wacked in rifle season. I can't even keep the rifle hunter's off of my in-laws 150 acres of posted property. VERY frustrating. I am looking elsewhere for managed property. I have hunted IL and OH for the past 3 years, and PA much less. I am going to Iowa this fall. Try to stay Zen about it. A good 115" 2 year old is a trophy in many areas of PA. That being said, P&Y and B&C class are taken every year in PA.


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