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i know here in IL its illegal to shoot over a body of water. wether it a creek river or pond/ lake, and i have ground in a bottom and theres a small creek that winds through it and some of the places i have stands on the property if you have deer in range more than likely you will be shooting across it...Now since i shoot across it and its illegal is that poaching? But its my property so i must be ok right?

Thats my point-you find a piece of property in NY that is not posted and appears unused you can hunt it and you are NOT legally trespassing. Sorry do not want to hijack thread with NYS environmental law. It reads very simple.

Here in Florida it's simple,if you are on someone else's property you have to have written permission.Period.

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Originally Posted by Down&OutHunting (Post 3418373)

If sum1 calls you a poacher for that they need their head examined. But it seems to be the general consensus on here that "rules are rules" and not to be interpreted so i guess i wont be surprised.

Well, I'm surprised more folks in NY haven't gotten on the state for their verbage. But, lets not get carried away. "Unimproved" and "unused"? If I have a storage building on my property, gravel the entrance road, then its improved. Let alone if my house is on my acrage. If I hunt the land, becuase I own it, have atv trails on it that I ride, it's not "unused" now is it? This is the kind of crap folks will interpret their own way to trespass. Like you said, its the game you play in NY. If you did that in Virginia, it would end badly, for you.

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Originally Posted by valor10 (Post 3418751)

I agree with you-if it has a building, driveway or signs of improvement it is trespassing with or without a posted sign. I didnt read anything in the hypothetical scenario that said the area had any of these-it said you could hear an occasional 4 wheeler-thats all. And when i said you might get in trouble if there are signs, house etc. in my other post, i meant that unless the landowner demands to press charges you are more than likely just goin to be asked to leave and NOT return. Every state is different as you said thats why i dont necessarily think this is a black and white legal issue imo.

I would not shoot. I want to answer my boys honestly if the question ever arose about doing something illegal when hunting.

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didnt read anything in the hypothetical scenario that said the area had any of these-it said you could hear an occasional 4 wheeler-thats all.

Except he says he's from South Carolina, and their DNR is pretty specific. Don't you think?

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Trespass
It shall be unlawful to enter upon the lands of another for the purpose of hunting, fishing, trapping or retrieval of dogs without the consent of the landowner or manager.

You can keep coming up with reasons to justify criminal behavior. Still doesn't make it right, or legal. It is black and white. Really, it is. I've never claimed to be perfect. Difference is, when I've broken the law (and it ain't weekly, sorry), I know I've done it, and not tried to justify it. The people in this thread that said they'd take the shot, are poachers. Some would accept the consequences for their actions because they know its wrong, but they'd do it anyway. Others, well, they just continue the justification routine.

His profile info says hes from south carolina-the scenario doesnt say you are hunting in S.C.-and as to how specific their rules are in S.C. I honestly dont know or care. I dont live or hunt there. I based my answer to where i live/hunt. Period!! BTW the scenario also said i was shooting a rifle-well rifles are not permitted to hunt deer in my county so i guess that makes me 2x the poacher. It was a hypothetical scenario bro- you want to call me a poacher-fine. Guys like you always need to be reassured they're right. Funny thing is i didnt think there was a correct answer for a hypothetical question-its make believe!!!

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I live/hunt in NY. I based my answer to the original post that stated the land was not posted. I hunt with plenty of cops here and have had lengthy discussions with them about hunting land that is not posted. If there are no posted signs its pretty much fair game here, and you can bet you wont be the only one thats in there either. No posted signs is pretty much an invitation to hunt there around here. People that dont want people on their property should make it clear there is no trespassing-otherwise you mite as well put up a welcome sign. Again i am referring to where i live and the perception of unposted property by people that live here. Every place is different. And as for having people trespass where i hunt-it happens all the time. Countless times ive had people in my stands when i arrive, gut piles from other hunters, stolen stands and trail cams, deer shot by road hunters right underneath my stand, and the list goes on and on. All on "private" property where i had sole permission. It sucks but its unfortunately part of the game.

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It was a hypothetical scenario bro- you want to call me a poacher-fine. Guys like you always need to be reassured they're right. Funny thing is i didnt think there was a correct answer for a hypothetical question-its make believe!!!

But your poaching in NY is reality, now isn't it? Everybody else does it, so why should you be singled out, right? Shoe fits, wear it. Be a man, and admit you poach. Does that make me better than you? You bet your ass it does. Sorry it hurts your feelings. Lets leave it at this. I'm a self righteous prick, and your a poacher? Deal?