Shoot? Or Don't Shoot? What would you do?
08-23-2009, 10:26 PM
#102
Fork Horn
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 112
Oklahoma. The "underdog" of big deer. I hope people keep thinkung that. That'll leave more for me to hunt! On my lil ol 100 acre spot, anything under 130" gets passed. My wife got a 155" 8pt last year with a 23 1/4" spread. Just in case you're wondering, it was on our side of the fence.
08-24-2009, 04:01 AM
#103
Typical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location:
Posts: 509
Hey mccraddock, you might "appreciate" folks admitting they'd break the law, and trying to justify it. I don't. Like others, I find it demoralizing. I think I'll start a thread, "would you cheat with your best friends wife/girlfriend because she's hot". I'd love to know how many guys are BFs as well as poachers!
08-24-2009, 06:06 AM
#104
Spike
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Northwest Ohio
Posts: 41
no. id do everything i could to get him to come across. i would never shoot across a property line even if you think no one is there you never know. Plus its poaching
08-24-2009, 11:10 AM
#106
Typical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: NY
Posts: 549
I live/hunt in NY. I based my answer to the original post that stated the land was not posted. I hunt with plenty of cops here and have had lengthy discussions with them about hunting land that is not posted. If there are no posted signs its pretty much fair game here, and you can bet you wont be the only one thats in there either. No posted signs is pretty much an invitation to hunt there around here. People that dont want people on their property should make it clear there is no trespassing-otherwise you mite as well put up a welcome sign. Again i am referring to where i live and the perception of unposted property by people that live here. Every place is different. And as for having people trespass where i hunt-it happens all the time. Countless times ive had people in my stands when i arrive, gut piles from other hunters, stolen stands and trail cams, deer shot by road hunters right underneath my stand, and the list goes on and on. All on "private" property where i had sole permission. It sucks but its unfortunately part of the game.
08-24-2009, 03:21 PM
#107
Typical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location:
Posts: 509
Thanks for the explanation rh160kid. Problem is, the cops your hunting with appear to be oblivious to the very law they are suppose to uphold. Not a good example. The below quote is from the NY State Department of Enviormental Conservation.
Your post is well taken though. It seems there is this prevalence by way too many hunters who show blatent disregard and disrespect for the rights and property of others. I recon its hard for a lot of folks to abide by the law, when so many refuse to. Good luck this year. Still don't make it right.
Q. Must I post to keep people off my property?
A. No. Trespassing is illegal even on unposted property, unless it is unimproved, apparently unused and unfenced (or not otherwise enclosed to exclude intruders.) Even on vacant land, a written notice delivered in person (or by certified mail with a signed receipt, etc.) to any person, in the name of the landowner or authorized party, containing a description of the premises and a warning of restrictions which apply has the same effect, for that person, as if the land were posted with those restrictions. Likewise, anyone asked to leave the premises, posted or not, by the landowner, occupant or other authorized person, must do so immediately.
A. No. Trespassing is illegal even on unposted property, unless it is unimproved, apparently unused and unfenced (or not otherwise enclosed to exclude intruders.) Even on vacant land, a written notice delivered in person (or by certified mail with a signed receipt, etc.) to any person, in the name of the landowner or authorized party, containing a description of the premises and a warning of restrictions which apply has the same effect, for that person, as if the land were posted with those restrictions. Likewise, anyone asked to leave the premises, posted or not, by the landowner, occupant or other authorized person, must do so immediately.
08-24-2009, 03:53 PM
#108
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Moravia NY USA
Posts: 2,164
Valor beat me to it about NYS.
Just because something is accepted locally by those who want to justify trespassing, does not make it right or legal - just another justification. Bottom line is, unless your laws say differently (and even then its common courtesy), if you don't have permission, you don't go OR shoot over the line etc.
Steve
Just because something is accepted locally by those who want to justify trespassing, does not make it right or legal - just another justification. Bottom line is, unless your laws say differently (and even then its common courtesy), if you don't have permission, you don't go OR shoot over the line etc.
Steve
Last edited by SteveBNy; 08-24-2009 at 04:03 PM.
08-24-2009, 04:47 PM
#109
Typical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: NY
Posts: 549
Thanks for the explanation rh160kid. Problem is, the cops your hunting with appear to be oblivious to the very law they are suppose to uphold. Not a good example. The below quote is from the NY State Department of Enviormental Conservation.
Your post is well taken though. It seems there is this prevalence by way too many hunters who show blatent disregard and disrespect for the rights and property of others. I recon its hard for a lot of folks to abide by the law, when so many refuse to. Good luck this year. Still don't make it right.
Your post is well taken though. It seems there is this prevalence by way too many hunters who show blatent disregard and disrespect for the rights and property of others. I recon its hard for a lot of folks to abide by the law, when so many refuse to. Good luck this year. Still don't make it right.
08-24-2009, 05:06 PM
#110
Typical Buck
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 564
It only took me about 2 seconds to see that exemption from NY tresspass laws.