Ammo opinion
07-26-2009, 07:16 PM
#32
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Almost Heaven,WV
Posts: 4,087
The first deer I shot with my .270, I was shooting the Remington 150gr shells and the deer acted as if it wasn't even hit. A second round put it down and a third round at close range put it away. Upon skinning the deer and looking at the damage, it was obvious that the bullet didn't expand much if any at all. The deer had what looked like a small puncture wound where thre bullet entered and a slightly larger wound on the exit. I explained to a fellow that was shooting his .270 what had happend and he imediately told me to go to a 130 grain. I did and the following season and most seasons afterwards it's been 1 shot ,1 kill with no tracking involved. I'm sold on the 130 grain loads and it don't matter much whether it's a Remingtom, Federal or Winchester shell just as long as it's a 130 grain and you put it through the boiler room.
07-26-2009, 08:27 PM
#33
Nontypical Buck
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Southern TN
Posts: 1,018
The gun came with a really nice recoil pad. I have used a limbsaver recoil pad on my WBY .300, but have since taken it off because it just catches on my clothing too much. But, the recoil pad that came on this CVA is top quality and seems to be at least as high a quality recoil pad as the limbsaver. Thanks for the input, again.
07-26-2009, 09:55 PM
#34
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Baileysville, WV
Posts: 2,925
I was not being sarcastic at all. While I was gutting the deer I took a close look at the lungs and hart. I found that the 130 grain cheap bullets out of a 22 inch barrel did all of their expantion in the entrance wound side of the 1st lung they encounter. They then poked a small hole through the rest of the deer.
On any deer I shot with the .270 they ran FAR off, some times to a completly different spread of woods.
Many that I shot but missed the heart were wounded but still out there runin around today.
That is why I say the 150 grain would be his best bet given the choices. If I were to recommend a bullet I would point him twards the Barnes solid slugs. They are the only bullets ever to have 100% weight retention after expansion.
Actually LOOK at the damage your bullets did, and pay close attention to WHERE it did its damage. Just because it poked a hole does not mean its gud enough. those little holes can be covered up by the skin moving. Then you have no blood trail at all and likely no deer at all.
Personally I look for a round designed around 200 grain bullets before I will accept it as a deer round. Then they don't take to many steps after the shot.
On any deer I shot with the .270 they ran FAR off, some times to a completly different spread of woods.
Many that I shot but missed the heart were wounded but still out there runin around today.
That is why I say the 150 grain would be his best bet given the choices. If I were to recommend a bullet I would point him twards the Barnes solid slugs. They are the only bullets ever to have 100% weight retention after expansion.
Actually LOOK at the damage your bullets did, and pay close attention to WHERE it did its damage. Just because it poked a hole does not mean its gud enough. those little holes can be covered up by the skin moving. Then you have no blood trail at all and likely no deer at all.
Personally I look for a round designed around 200 grain bullets before I will accept it as a deer round. Then they don't take to many steps after the shot.
Troll alert!!!
07-27-2009, 04:04 AM
#35
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Southeast Alabama
Posts: 1,625
I was not being sarcastic at all. While I was gutting the deer I took a close look at the lungs and hart. I found that the 130 grain cheap bullets out of a 22 inch barrel did all of their expantion in the entrance wound side of the 1st lung they encounter. They then poked a small hole through the rest of the deer.
On any deer I shot with the .270 they ran FAR off, some times to a completly different spread of woods.
Many that I shot but missed the heart were wounded but still out there runin around today.
That is why I say the 150 grain would be his best bet given the choices. If I were to recommend a bullet I would point him twards the Barnes solid slugs. They are the only bullets ever to have 100% weight retention after expansion.
Actually LOOK at the damage your bullets did, and pay close attention to WHERE it did its damage. Just because it poked a hole does not mean its gud enough. those little holes can be covered up by the skin moving. Then you have no blood trail at all and likely no deer at all.
Personally I look for a round designed around 200 grain bullets before I will accept it as a deer round. Then they don't take to many steps after the shot.
On any deer I shot with the .270 they ran FAR off, some times to a completly different spread of woods.
Many that I shot but missed the heart were wounded but still out there runin around today.
That is why I say the 150 grain would be his best bet given the choices. If I were to recommend a bullet I would point him twards the Barnes solid slugs. They are the only bullets ever to have 100% weight retention after expansion.
Actually LOOK at the damage your bullets did, and pay close attention to WHERE it did its damage. Just because it poked a hole does not mean its gud enough. those little holes can be covered up by the skin moving. Then you have no blood trail at all and likely no deer at all.
Personally I look for a round designed around 200 grain bullets before I will accept it as a deer round. Then they don't take to many steps after the shot.
07-27-2009, 04:10 AM
#36
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Southeast Alabama
Posts: 1,625
Deer are not hard to kill a good cast pullet at 1500 fps will do fine. I say start with sereral different kinds of the cheap rounds in 130 and see if any will shoot to the level of accruacy you like. When you find the one you like go hunt.
07-27-2009, 08:06 AM
#38
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: North Louisiana
Posts: 3,050
Where are you getting this information? I've never heard of 130 grain not being recommended. In my experience the 130 grain has outperformed the 150 grain on drop dead shots. I've killed lots of deer, and I know for a fact the 130 grain will get the job done. I highly recommend the 130 grain over the 150 grain. Don't get me wrong, the 150 grain will do the job also, but for me, the 130 grain works better.
07-27-2009, 08:29 AM
#39
Spike
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Beaufort, SC
Posts: 25
As far as the wife thing.... I just set my wife up with a brand new savage 243 and 100gr winchester powerpoints and she shot it her very first time this past weekend. Just waiting to see if she shoots more deer than me this season. Was going to get her the 270, but then again only 130gr and higher bullets. Depnds on what she is comfortable shooting. The thing that matters most is that she is comfortable shooting with it. Comfort builds consistency which equals confidence and accuracy. Just waiting for here to put here first one down now!
07-27-2009, 09:01 AM
#40
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Texas
Posts: 2,695
As far as the wife thing.... I just set my wife up with a brand new savage 243 and 100gr winchester powerpoints and she shot it her very first time this past weekend. Just waiting to see if she shoots more deer than me this season. Was going to get her the 270, but then again only 130gr and higher bullets. Depnds on what she is comfortable shooting. The thing that matters most is that she is comfortable shooting with it. Comfort builds consistency which equals confidence and accuracy. Just waiting for here to put here first one down now!
It is bad medicine on deer.
Mt father went from a .308 to the .243 back in the 60's because of us kids, well we never looked back and never shot anything else for decades. I only remember one deer my bro lost to a .243, cant tell you where he hit it though.
I never lost one in at least 50 deer in 30 years.
