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RugerM77.270 05-06-2009 01:26 PM

What are the 5 biggest hunting myths?
 
I am teaching a hunting/shooting class later this month at my churches annual men's advance and I thought I would tackle some hunting myths, so what would you guys say the top five hunting myths be?

wingchaser_labs 05-06-2009 02:08 PM

RE: What are the 5 biggest hunting myths?
 
Once a scrub always a scrub (little buck).
Not a myth but....Harvest what makes you happy and are proud of. WCL

whitetail_fanatic 05-06-2009 02:11 PM

RE: What are the 5 biggest hunting myths?
 
That you can determine the sex of a deer based on if its crap is held together in a ball or loose pellets.

wingchaser_labs 05-06-2009 02:12 PM

RE: What are the 5 biggest hunting myths?
 

ORIGINAL: whitetail_fanatic

That you can determine the sex of a deer based on if its crap is held together in a ball or loose pellets.
Or if the dew claws touch the ground or not on a track. WCL

Doe Dumper 05-06-2009 05:39 PM

RE: What are the 5 biggest hunting myths?
 
That only big bucks breed. Once a spike always a spike. That scent lock suits work :D. That deer cant see blaze orange. LOL Thats enough for now, I figure Ive stirred up enough.

timbercruiser 05-06-2009 05:50 PM

RE: What are the 5 biggest hunting myths?
 
That you have to have a big caliber rifle to kill a deer.
That "scent proof" stuff works 100%.
That just because somebody else legally hunts different from your style that it is unethical.

shottyhunter24 05-06-2009 05:51 PM

RE: What are the 5 biggest hunting myths?
 
that all hunters are rednecks!!!!
although that is just a myth about hunting not having to do with hunting

Colorado Luckydog 05-06-2009 06:42 PM

RE: What are the 5 biggest hunting myths?
 
That it's okay to be in the record books with a Governors tag!

The wind is not that important if you wear scentlock!

Cover scents don't work!

You can't kill the good ones in the middle of the day.

Topdawg woof woof is not gay and has all of our respect!:D

Colorado Luckydog 05-06-2009 06:49 PM

RE: What are the 5 biggest hunting myths?
 

ORIGINAL: Doe Dumper

That only big bucks breed. Once a spike always a spike. That scent lock suits work :D. That deer cant see blaze orange. LOL Thats enough for now, I figure Ive stirred up enough.
I'm not saying they can't see blaze orange. All I'm saying, is I've been within inches of buck deer and within a few feet of elk wearing a total orange jacket and hat, and they didn't act like they saw the blaze orange. It sure didn't spook them.

I do agree about the scent lock!:D

uncle matt 05-06-2009 08:34 PM

RE: What are the 5 biggest hunting myths?
 
1. Deer avoid other deer's gutpiles.

2. You can tell the age of a deer by it's antlers (points).

3. There are better looking guys than me that hunt deer.

Robert L E 05-06-2009 09:59 PM

RE: What are the 5 biggest hunting myths?
 
Myth- Human urine drives away deer. (It is actually an attractant)

Myth- Deer can locate you if you make a brief sound. (In truth, deer have to focus their hearing, brief quick sounds, while heard by deer, do not give your location away. Deer have independently moving ears and they have to "focus" their hearing. This is why deer will often look in the wrong direction at a gun shot or other brief noise.)

Human's hearing, while not as sharp as a deer, is always in focus. A human can hear a little pop and immediately know where it came from.

Bob

trmichels 05-07-2009 12:45 AM

RE: What are the 5 biggest hunting myths?
 
1. Deer and elk see in black and white. Scientific research, instigated by me, and done by Vision Scientist Dr. Jayy Neitz, and Deer hIologist and Researcher Dr. Larry Marchinton, shoed that whitetails see the colors blue and yellow very well, but not red and green.

2. Peak breeding of whitetail deer occurs during the full moon. Scientific resaerc, condudted by the Minnesota DNR, and myself, showed that peak breeding of whitetails generally occurs within about the same 10 day period every year, regardless of the phase of the moon. This study was later backed up by Dr. Karl Miller at the U of GA, who used the breeding dates of over 2500+ deer.

3. Whitetail does use an "estrus call". No such call has ever been recorded by, nontheless mentioned by, whitetail researchers.

4. Cow elk use an "estrus call". After 4 years of research on captive elk, and seeing over 20 cows get bred, I never heard any of them make any sound (that could be associated with breeding) within 20 minutes of getting bred. A bull determines if a cow is in estrus by smelling the area where the cow was laying down, or by smelling the cow itself.

5. Female mallards make a chuckling sound, often referred to as the "feeding chuckle", that is used by ducks to get other ducks to come and feed with them. Research by Dr. Paul Johansgard showed that this call is an "incitement call". The hen is using this call to incite her mate to attack any other drake that is tyring to "cozy up to her".

Steve863 05-07-2009 04:12 AM

RE: What are the 5 biggest hunting myths?
 
One of the biggest myths is that Quality Deer Management was established to benefit a deer population. Nothing but a bunch of BS!! It was created by trophy hunters in hope that it might help grow even bigger bucks for them to shoot, period! Things like planting food plots and killing only mature bucks has absolutely NOTHING to do with the natural balance of things.





Edcyclopedia 05-07-2009 04:27 AM

RE: What are the 5 biggest hunting myths?
 
Moon phase, does it really affect movement - who cares!

wind over 20 mph, I don't like my stand to turn into an amusement ride!

heavy rain, the kind where it rolls down your crack!

I've never had ANY luck with these...
So it's a myth that you can ACTUALLY get a deer when you employ hunting during these activities.

Buck Hunter 1 05-07-2009 04:58 AM

RE: What are the 5 biggest hunting myths?
 
1. if you aim/lead at the tip of a running deers nose you will hit it in the heart,
2. The guys on tv are the best hunters in the world
3. That a heavy caliber is overkill for deer
4. That you don't have to eat a peice of the heart or get marked w/ blood on your forehead on your first kill!! (for my nephew)
5. You can't stalk hunt deer.

Bernie P. 05-07-2009 05:16 AM

RE: What are the 5 biggest hunting myths?
 
1.Big cals/high energy kill quicker than smaller rounds.
2.The importance of wearing camo.
3.Compounds are superior to trad bows.
4.Open sighted lever action rifles are faster for follow up shots than scoped bolt actions.
5.Obama does not want our guns.Should have listed this myth number one :)!!!

Blackelk 05-07-2009 05:24 AM

RE: What are the 5 biggest hunting myths?
 
1. Firepower replaces shot placement
2. Spending thousands of dollars on equipment will make you a better hunter
3. Animals won't be out in bad weather
4. Bugling from a ATV is the fastest way to find a bull elk :D
5. If I look like a bush and smell like a bush the game won't see the bush get up and move.

magicman54494 05-07-2009 05:32 AM

RE: What are the 5 biggest hunting myths?
 

ORIGINAL: uncle matt
3. There are better looking guys than me that hunt deer.
<----- myth busted!:D

SWThomas 05-07-2009 07:20 AM

RE: What are the 5 biggest hunting myths?
 

ORIGINAL: Bernie P.

1.Big cals/high energy kill quicker than smaller rounds.
2.The importance of wearing camo.
3.Compounds are superior to trad bows.
4.Open sighted lever action rifles are faster for follow up shots than scoped bolt actions.
5.Obama does not want our guns.Should have listed this myth number one :)!!!
Actually.... I think a .50 cal would certainly dispatch an animal quicker than a .22 when placed in the same spot. Camo is very important when hunting turkey. Compound bows technically are superior to traditional bows in that theyshoot faster, quieter, and have precision sights for a more precise shot.

But I'm just applying common sense, so who knows....

spuddog 05-07-2009 10:37 AM

RE: What are the 5 biggest hunting myths?
 
- you have to "bleed" a deer by cutting it's throat when you gut it.
- you have to cut out the tarsal glands or they'll contaminate the meat.

These are two that I kept running into when I first started.

Spud

The Outdoorsman 05-07-2009 11:00 AM

RE: What are the 5 biggest hunting myths?
 

1. Hunting is cruelty to animals. Big myth!!! Its more humane to kill a deer with a a double lung shot than how the cows and pigs are killed for your pork and steaks.
2. Neck shots are the best bet to kill a deer. Double lung shots far out-weigh neck shots in terms of killing the deer.
3. The biggest deer are in Texas. Their racks look big because of their small bodies.
4. Opening weekend of rifle/gun season is your best chance to kill a deer. You have to spend time in the woods throughout the season, not one particular weekend.
5. You have to have the fastest bow on the market to be able to kill a deer. Sharp broadheads are what do all the work.

timbercruiser 05-07-2009 11:18 AM

RE: What are the 5 biggest hunting myths?
 
If a deer is standing still, within 75 or so yards, broadside I will opt for the neck shot over the lung shot. I don't see how the lung shot could "far out-weigh" the neck shot. They don't go anywhere but straight down.

skb2706 05-07-2009 11:26 AM

RE: What are the 5 biggest hunting myths?
 
1. All deer are the same size fromthe tiny little whitetail buck in Texas to the mountian mule deer timber bucks in the Rockies.

2. All deer are hunted the same way no matter where you live

3. Hunting elk here in CO requires a guide and expensive gear to be successful.

4. The myth of the "too much gun" creates too much damage. Learn to shoot and it won't.

5. Everyone who posts on a hunting forum knows exactly what they are talking about.

Father Forkhorn 05-07-2009 01:17 PM

RE: What are the 5 biggest hunting myths?
 
1. Forget the wind and just hunt.


Colorado Luckydog 05-07-2009 04:38 PM

RE: What are the 5 biggest hunting myths?
 

ORIGINAL: skb2706

5. Everyone who posts on a hunting forum knows exactly what they are talking about.
LMAO!!!!:DThat's the best one yet!

TRACKER 05-07-2009 08:19 PM

RE: What are the 5 biggest hunting myths?
 
Myth . Ever here the one abought putting salt on a dear,s tail to keep him coming back ???

skeeter 7MM 05-07-2009 11:22 PM

RE: What are the 5 biggest hunting myths?
 

Gun related:

In reference to chosing your bullet or caliber - known as bush beaters. A heavier bullet or caliber will not deflect when striking a twig or branch. IE:making a 200gr .308 bullet a better choice then a 140.277 for the woods hunter.

Thelighter bullet is always best when shooting long range.

A semi-auto.lever or pump are better then a bolt action due to faster follow up shots.

Speed kills

Bigger is better

The bigger the caliber the larger the hole or damage done.

Everyrifle out of the box is capable of shooting MOA or better.

Failures are caused by bullets, broadheads, arrows, etc...never by the user!


Equipment:

"Forget the wind just hunt!" Scentlok,etc suits

Camo clothing is the most important factor to concealment.

The higher the power scope, bino, spotter the better.

BDC reticles are a must for hunting.

A compass is obselete technology.

You don't need TP in your pack!!!

Game:

Shooting an animal in the CNS (spine, neck or head)will result in a faster or shorter track then vitals.

Head and neck shots waste far less meat then a double lung shot thru ribs.

Scrapes are used by dominant bucks.

scouting ends when the season begins

Weather, moon, etc effect when rut happens.

Game animals don't look up and scent doesn't go down.

If I don't shoot him somebody else will

Leaving an animal who's died with entrails in will not result in spoilage.

Aging venison is a must

Butchering or processing game is too difficult for the average hunter. Processing requires fancy saws &equiment.

A 200 lb deer on the hoofwill provide 150lbs inthe freezer



Doe Dumper 05-07-2009 11:49 PM

RE: What are the 5 biggest hunting myths?
 
LOL I gotta do it just for NCHawk...one of the biggest myths nobody has listed..


A 243 is a good deer cartridge :D





Remfire 05-08-2009 02:42 AM

RE: What are the 5 biggest hunting myths?
 
That spotlighting deer is unethical...er...wrong thread.Sorry.

Bernie P. 05-08-2009 06:34 AM

RE: What are the 5 biggest hunting myths?
 

ORIGINAL: SWThomas


ORIGINAL: Bernie P.

1.Big cals/high energy kill quicker than smaller rounds.
2.The importance of wearing camo.
3.Compounds are superior to trad bows.
4.Open sighted lever action rifles are faster for follow up shots than scoped bolt actions.
5.Obama does not want our guns.Should have listed this myth number one :)!!!
Actually.... I think a .50 cal would certainly dispatch an animal quicker than a .22 when placed in the same spot. Camo is very important when hunting turkey. Compound bows technically are superior to traditional bows in that theyshoot faster, quieter, and have precision sights for a more precise shot.

But I'm just applying common sense, so who knows....
You're right about the 50 but the critter will be just as dead with a smaller round.I know several friends that never wear camo when hunting anything including turkeys and they always fill their turkey tags.To a point compounds are technically more advanced than trad bows but they still only throw the arrow.Faster yes in many cases but I've never come across one that shoots as quiet as my recurve let alone my longbow which is near silent.Accuracy is entirely dependent on the shooter.Howard Hill could at will "Robin Hood" an arrow.In fact he did all the shooting for the orginal RH film.Howard,Ron Leclair,John Shultz,etc shoot dimes thrown in the air.Hill nailed ten in a row once.Try to do that with precision sights some time.HIll,Fred Bear,Ben Pearson all took animals well over 100yds in their time shooting bare bow.Not to shabby for a stick'n string :)!

SWThomas 05-08-2009 06:51 AM

RE: What are the 5 biggest hunting myths?
 

ORIGINAL: Bernie P.

You're right about the 50 but the critter will be just as dead with a smaller round.I know several friends that never wear camo when hunting anything including turkeys and they always fill their turkey tags.To a point compounds are technically more advanced than trad bows but they still only throw the arrow.Faster yes in many cases but I've never come across one that shoots as quiet as my recurve let alone my longbow which is near silent.Accuracy is entirely dependent on the shooter.Howard Hill could at will "Robin Hood" an arrow.In fact he did all the shooting for the orginal RH film.Howard,Ron Leclair,John Shultz,etc shoot dimes thrown in the air.Hill nailed ten in a row once.Try to do that with precision sights some time.HIll,Fred Bear,Ben Pearson all took animals well over 100yds in their time shooting bare bow.Not to shabby for a stick'n string :)!
While it is true you can "kill" large animals with smaller rounds, they won't dispatch the animal as quick. I want my animals dead where they stand so I don't have to trail them or possibly lose them.

I could kill turkeys in my underwear if I were shooting them with rifles or from a blind. But if you're calling them into close proximity, you need concealment.

And as for shooting dimes and Robin Hooding arrows...... That's great, if you like exibitions. I would rather employ the technology availbale to me in every effort to make as ethical a kill as possible. Traditional people are cool with me, I just like to evolve with the times. And people like Tred Barta who consistantly make horrible shots on animals with a traditional bow make me sick to my stomach.

Bernie P. 05-08-2009 11:45 AM

RE: What are the 5 biggest hunting myths?
 
Sure if you take it to the extreme- .22 vs .50 you'll see a difference but I seriously doubt any animal shot with my 7x57 or .280 would go more than a few yards farther if any than one hit with a .50 cal.Me and my friends often use tree stands while bow hunting deer but a couple never use a blind or camo for turkeys and that's with a shotgun.Rifle's arent allowed here in NY for turkey.I always wear camo when hunting turkeys (Even my Mberg 835 has the Mossy Oak finish.) and most everything else as do most of my buds.Never heard of Tred Barta and from what you say glad of it.Good luck!

DeerandbearhoG 05-08-2009 12:49 PM

RE: What are the 5 biggest hunting myths?
 
Wow 4 pages and no one mentioned the biggest hunting myth of all " BOWHUNTING IS HARDER THAN GUN HUNTING"

Others:
Deer are smart.:eek: (deer have very low intelligence and behave strictly on instinct)
The younger the deer the better it tastes:eek: (I find fawns to be the blandest of all the age groups)
Bear meat doesnt taste good:eek: (better than venison IMO)
Bears are harder to kill than deer:eek: (a avg. black bears shoulders and ribs are about the same size as an avg WTs)

seattlesetters 05-08-2009 02:13 PM

RE: What are the 5 biggest hunting myths?
 
Myth: A .300 RUM is a "better" deer gun than a .308 Win.

Please tell them that recoil = flinching for everyone!

Bernie P. 05-09-2009 06:41 AM

RE: What are the 5 biggest hunting myths?
 

ORIGINAL: DeerandbearhoG

Wow 4 pages and no one mentioned the biggest hunting myth of all " BOWHUNTING IS HARDER THAN GUN HUNTING"

Others:
Deer are smart.:eek: (deer have very low intelligence and behave strictly on instinct)
The younger the deer the better it tastes:eek: (I find fawns to be the blandest of all the age groups)
Bear meat doesnt taste good:eek: (better than venison IMO)
Bears are harder to kill than deer:eek: (a avg. black bears shoulders and ribs are about the same size as an avg WTs)
Bowhunting is harder!It requires much more practice to shoot a bow well and your range is far more limited.

Lanse couche couche 05-09-2009 10:08 AM

RE: What are the 5 biggest hunting myths?
 
1.People who hunt deer with hounds are lazy slobs.[:-]

2.People who hunt with crossbows are lazy slobs.[&o]

3.Legalizing crossbows will result in the deer population being wiped out.[X(]

4.You need 1000 bucks worth of camo, scent, lure, etc. to bag a big buck.:(

5.Kevin1 has never "touched" himself when he gets bored in the deer stand.[:o]

DeerandbearhoG 05-09-2009 12:17 PM

RE: What are the 5 biggest hunting myths?
 

ORIGINAL: Bernie P.


ORIGINAL: DeerandbearhoG

Wow 4 pages and no one mentioned the biggest hunting myth of all " BOWHUNTING IS HARDER THAN GUN HUNTING"

Others:
Deer are smart.:eek: (deer have very low intelligence and behave strictly on instinct)
The younger the deer the better it tastes:eek: (I find fawns to be the blandest of all the age groups)
Bear meat doesnt taste good:eek: (better than venison IMO)
Bears are harder to kill than deer:eek: (a avg. black bears shoulders and ribs are about the same size as an avg WTs)
Bowhunting is harder!It requires much more practice to shoot a bow well and your range is far more limited.
WRONG! Your assuming the weapon used is the only factor in what makes a hunt difficult. I dont know about your state but here in NY you will see 10Xs as many deer during bow season than in gun season. The weapon and range matter little if you dont have anything to shoot at, and most of my gun kills have been with in bow range anyway. That and the fact that you have about 50Xs as many hunters in the woods during gun season as oppose to bow season, kind of adds to the difficulty aswell doesnt it?. Not to mention, you have many more option of where you can hunt w/ a bow than a gun ,and more opportunities to practice shooting a bow than a gun, Id call that an advantage wouldnt you? Personally my most frustrating and challenging phases of deer season is gun season, not archery season!

Like I said bowhunting being harder than gun hunting is a myth IMO.

SWThomas 05-09-2009 12:47 PM

RE: What are the 5 biggest hunting myths?
 

ORIGINAL: Bernie P.

Sure if you take it to the extreme- .22 vs .50 you'll see a difference but I seriously doubt any animal shot with my 7x57 or .280 would go more than a few yards farther if any than one hit with a .50 cal.Me and my friends often use tree stands while bow hunting deer but a couple never use a blind or camo for turkeys and that's with a shotgun.Rifle's arent allowed here in NY for turkey.I always wear camo when hunting turkeys (Even my Mberg 835 has the Mossy Oak finish.) and most everything else as do most of my buds.Never heard of Tred Barta and from what you say glad of it.Good luck!
If your friends are that good where they can kill turkeys in jeans and a t-shirts, that's awesome!

NorCal 05-09-2009 06:50 PM

RE: What are the 5 biggest hunting myths?
 
Here's a myth you can give to your students. If you gain entry into some one's deer camp don't worry about helping with the chores, and if you don't help, don'tworry that you might wake up the next morning with some one's dirty socks wrapped around your head, or that all your clothes might be missing or etc.

CIDEERHUNTER 05-10-2009 04:22 AM

RE: What are the 5 biggest hunting myths?
 
kevin has never touched himself !!!!!!!!!!! lmaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo:D


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