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Beth Williams, a specialist on chronic wasting disease from the University of Wyoming, said she is convinced that the disease is transmitted animal-to-animal. She said tests are not sensitive enough to detect the CWD-causing proteins, called prions, in urine, feces or saliva. But healthy animals have contracted the disease in many instances when placed with infected deer, Williams said. " The disease is clearly transmissible," Williams said. Also, Williams added, healthy deer who are orally inoculated with CWD prions always get the disease. " It' s essentially very easy to infect an animals with CWD," Williams said Also, Williams added, healthy deer who are orally inoculated with CWD prions always get the disease. always |
RE: Boycott Wisconsin
BTW,you haven' t given me much evidence to ban baiting. You' ve given me a bunch of speculation by the " experts" . Just like I posted above. In one sentence it says one thing and the next it says another. If the Wi. DNR can continue the eradication of whitetails even though the incidence of CWD in the " collected" animals hovers around 1%, I wouldn' t really trust what they say about baiting. Hey Big, I think thats the problem. It needs to be in " Black and White" then maybe they' ll get. Its the " red" , you' re confusing them! I could care less about what MIGHT or MAY facilitate the spread of CWD, just why so few deer actually have it! |
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Colorado and Wyoming started at less than 1% also. AIDS started at less than 1%. The plaigue started at less than 1%. Small pox started at less than 1%. Every disease out there had to start somewhere and at one time they were all less than 1%. That stance just isn' t going to work.
The point is that feeding and baiting gathers sick and healthy deer together and promotes the spread of the disease much faster. There is enough supporting evidence out there about this that your argument so far isn' t holding any water. the disease has a very long incubation period, which leads to a high " false negative" rate during early infection. In addition, relatively little is known about the distribution of the CWD agent, so an animal whose brain and nervous system tissue tests negative might actually be carrying the infective agent in its muscle or other tissues. |
RE: Boycott Wisconsin
I have no problem with the WDNR. I hope the WDNR continues to learn more and more about CWD than to sit around with thumbs up their asses passing judgment. We DO NOT know enough about this disease and are taking every action to find out about it. I think people need to chill out and let the experts do their job. Thats what they do. Or are you the expert? Do you think they are getting off on killing these deer? No matter how ya look at it, it SUCKS.
I could care less about what MIGHT or MAY facilitate the spread of CWD BTW,you haven' t given me much evidence to ban baiting.  A big deer baiting pile. Many hunting groups place huge piles of feed corn and other foods to attract deer. Deer congregate around such stations and may exchange CWD through face-to-face contact, in mucus, urine or some other manner. Deer feeding and baiting has been temporarily banned statewide until further notice. I copied and pasted this photo from a CWD website. © DNR PhotoPhoto |
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OV: I thought I explained this to you already, but I could be mistaken. I' ll try once more. First let me say there are certain areas within the eradication zone (EZ) where the occurence of infected animals is higher than surrounding areas. Heres a map to help you understand what I' m trying to say.
 Now I know red is a tough color for you, but that big glob of red, clustered in the center, represents CWD positive deer. The EZ is the entire area shaded in gray. 411 sq. miles acually. Now if you had to pick an area there that was " hot" , where would you say that is? Now if you look even closer in our newly discovered Hot Zone (HZ), you will see some of those squares have numbers in them. Some of those numbers are higher than the rest. Lets call those Real F***ing Hot Zones (RFHz). A lot of those deer that were tested came from that gray area. What would you say that gray area represents of the total area? 2/3? Would you say the infection rate of the red area is higher or lower than the gray? That miniscule infection percentage you keep spewing includes that gray area. Follow where I' m going with that? Still not following me? Heres a little home work assignment for ya. A person goes hunting in the eradication Zone. Over the course of the season, he shoots 4 deer. He takes advantage of the cwd testing offered by his states Dept. of Natural Resources. After a couple months he gets the following results back. Deer #1 CWD Sampling Barcode #: 00001 Period: Fall 2002 Hunting Season Surveillance DNR Customer #: xxxxxxx County: Dane Registration Station: NORSLEIN' S WOOD WORKS Deer Management Unit: 70A-CWD Twn/Rng/Sec/QS: T 7 N R 6 E Sec 4 NW¼ Date Killed: Thursday , November 14, 2002 Deer Sex: Female Deer Age: 9-11 Results Available: Yes CWD Test Result: Positive CWD Sampling Barcode #: 00002 Period: Fall 2002 Hunting Season Surveillance DNR Customer #: xxxxxxx County: Dane Registration Station: NORSLEIN' S WOOD WORKS Deer Management Unit: 70A-CWD Twn/Rng/Sec/QS: T 7 N R 6 E Sec 4 NW¼ Date Killed: Thursday , November 21, 2002 Deer Sex: Female Deer Age: 1 Results Available: Yes CWD Test Result: Negative CWD Sampling Barcode #: 00003 Period: Fall 2002 Hunting Season Surveillance DNR Customer #: xxxxxxx County: Dane Registration Station: NORSLEIN' S WOOD WORKS Deer Management Unit: 70A-CWD Twn/Rng/Sec/QS: T 7 N R 6 E Sec 4 NW¼ Date Killed: Thursday , November 21, 2002 Deer Sex: Male Deer Age: 3 Results Available: Yes CWD Test Result: Positive CWD Sampling Barcode #: 00004 Period: Fall 2002 Hunting Season Surveillance DNR Customer #: xxxxxxx County: Dane Registration Station: NORSLEIN' S WOOD WORKS Deer Management Unit: 70A-CWD Twn/Rng/Sec/QS: T 7 N R 6 E Sec 4 NW¼ Date Killed: Monday , December 02, 2002 Deer Sex: Male Deer Age: 1 Results Available: Yes CWD Test Result: Negative Bonus question; What do the negative results have in common? |
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That isn' t a bait hunter, that is someone waiting for a deer to become stuck in a corn version of quicksand. Are you sure a 18 wheeler shipping corn didn' t overturn in this guys hunting spot. Good god man!
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Nub, I know your distraught over all of this, so am I, but stop refering to yourself in the third person, it' s scaring me :D
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http://www.cwd-info.org/index.php/fu...f4710de0b333c1
http://www.aphis.usda.gov/lpa/pubs/f...faq_ahcwd.html http://www.nwhc.usgs.gov/research/ch.../cwd012803.pdf http://wildlife.state.co.us/cwd/rese..._early_JGV.pdf http://wildlife.state.co.us/cwd/rese...nteric_JGV.pdf Here is some reading for you from scientists, vets, and state DNR' s. You might want to check them out so you too may be informed instead of talking about this blindly. |
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