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[email protected] 02-17-2009 04:16 AM

deer hunting
 
would a .7mm rem magnum take down a german sheperd size coyote with a 185 grain size ballistic tip bullet?

timbercruiser 02-17-2009 04:56 AM

RE: deer hunting
 
Easily, as long as you put the bullet in a kill part of the coyote, but then again a .22 will kill one if you put the bullet in the right place.

Remfire 02-17-2009 06:22 AM

RE: deer hunting
 
Oh yes,it would do the trick!

drenal 02-17-2009 06:39 AM

RE: deer hunting
 
ye it would do the trick no doubt ,even if the coyote is prehistoric and weighs 500+lbs
185 grains with 7mm rem mag ballistics is enough drop a grizzly is shot correctly

j2000 02-17-2009 07:27 AM

RE: deer hunting
 
Oh yes, like timbercruiser said a 22 rifle will kill then if hit in the right place.i like to use a .223 cal. for coyote for long range shots.

dandbuck 02-17-2009 11:28 AM

RE: deer hunting
 
Please don't take this wrong but: Are you serious? Honestly, how does one go to purchase a rifle and not know what you would use it for? Is it just that someone is going to give you the gun?

wis_rifle_hunter 02-17-2009 12:57 PM

RE: deer hunting
 
that gun would blow it apart. i hope your not going to buy that gun just for coyotes

millagerobert 02-17-2009 01:38 PM

RE: deer hunting
 
Overkill for a coyote, but if your not keeping hides, go for it.

Lyncher68 02-17-2009 02:09 PM

RE: deer hunting
 
Way overkill...most people use a .223 or similar size caliber for coyotes... unless youre just trying to make a mess!

hunt91 02-17-2009 03:46 PM

RE: deer hunting
 
anyone else feel unsafe with someone in the woods that is carrying a gun and has no idea wat its capable of..... an also how does this fit in the deer hunting catigory with the title of deer hunting?

tyleryeags 02-17-2009 04:35 PM

RE: deer hunting
 
that would make a mess of a coyote also i would be scared if someone was in the woods and had no idea of wat the gun was capable of

J The Deer Slayer 02-17-2009 04:48 PM

RE: deer hunting
 
As long as hes not aiming it at people or houses who really cares?

gspguy73 02-17-2009 05:58 PM

RE: deer hunting
 
It would demolish a coyote.

UncleNorby 02-18-2009 07:05 AM

RE: deer hunting
 
A large male coyote weighs 50 lbs. A small female Shepherd weighs the same. I guess it is possible that you are looking at a coyote, but depending upon where you live it could well be something that you'd get in a lot of trouble for shooting.

I heard of a guy in Maine that got in hot water for shooting an animal that he beleived to be a coyote, but since it was so large, he showed it around. Very soon afterward, USFWS showed up and confiscated the carcass, and only after DNA testing could they determine the animal had enough wolf DNA to be considered more wolf than coyote, so they charged him.

I think the case was resolved reasonably, because the guy really did think it was a coyote when he shot it.

That issue aside, a 7 Mag is plenty of gun for all non-dangerous critters up to and including moose. If you really have to ask if it is adequate for a 50 lb dog, then I'd say it's time to learn more about your gun. Go hunting after you've done that.

fastetti 02-18-2009 07:24 AM

RE: deer hunting
 
With how broad "Deer hunting" is in a Deer hunting forum and then asking if a 7mm with a 185 gr. bullet will kill a coyote, I think something smells fishy with this post, especailly for post one. If it isn't fishy, Im hoping this person is far from where I hunt! :)

Western MA Hunter 02-18-2009 07:27 AM

RE: deer hunting
 
Yes...!


timbercruiser 02-18-2009 08:06 AM

RE: deer hunting
 
I think it is a younger hunter that is asking an honest question. There was a time some 50 years ago I might have had a similar question.

2Poppa 02-18-2009 12:26 PM

RE: deer hunting
 
Two thumbs up timbercruiser!


ORIGINAL: timbercruiser

I think it is a younger hunter that is asking an honest question. There was a time some 50 years ago I might have had a similar question.

rustynobles 02-18-2009 12:49 PM

RE: deer hunting
 
Wow, a 7 mag for coyote? get a .22 and save money, of course it will do the trick, but when you pull the trigger, you'll be hearing ch-ching (that's the money you'll be pissing away)

instinct 02-18-2009 12:54 PM

RE: deer hunting
 
I use a 7mm rem mag for deer and catch a ton of crap for overkill. Thats a little much.

johnnybravoo77 02-19-2009 04:57 AM

RE: deer hunting
 
I shot a yote 2 yrs ago with my 7mm wsm, 140 gr balistic tip; he was about 80 yds away. No need to keep the hide do to the 4 inch hole on the exit wound. Chunks of heart and lung everywhere. Your gun would be overkill to say the least, but if there is no intrest in hides, then all means use it.

DeerandbearhoG 02-19-2009 10:42 AM

RE: deer hunting
 
A coyote is small, thin skinned varmint. A huge coyote goes about 50-60#s a small German shepard is about 70lbs so I think you are overestimating a coyotes size. A 7mm rem mag is more than adequate to take down animals 10Xs a coyotes size, way out there.
BTW who makes a 185 grain 7mm bullet? Ive never heard of that, and no reloading manual, I own has load data for a 185 grain 7mm cartridge.


WIbuckchaser 02-19-2009 03:45 PM

RE: deer hunting
 
I would think that canon would knock down darn near any living thing if bullet hit vitals.

papines 02-19-2009 03:56 PM

RE: deer hunting
 
You know what, go blow them coyotes up my friend! Hit em' and let em' lie as nothing will eat them varmints! They are a predator w/ no equal in killing turkey and deer. I hunt them year round. That 7 will make chip shots starting at 250 yards. Scope it big w at least 12 power on the high end and go get em"

blackiceslayer 02-22-2009 04:42 PM

RE: deer hunting
 
A 7MM are you serious what kind of person asks this question??? Can i ask you have you ever hunted before that you dont know what a 7MM is capable of?? I mean honestly grow up!

DeerandbearhoG 02-22-2009 05:24 PM

RE: deer hunting
 

ORIGINAL: blackiceslayer

A 7MM are you serious what kind of person asks this question??? Can i ask you have you ever hunted before that you dont know what a 7MM is capable of?? I mean honestly grow up!
This response is quite rude and uncalled for. It may come as a shock to such a knowledgeable, gun expert as yourself:eek: but most folks outside, and even many in, the hunting community, do not know the difference between a 9mm and 3006, and do not now what different caliber are suited for. Its obvious that this person falls into the "newbie" category, so why not try to educate him, like someone did for you once, instead of attacking him for asking a question?

slayer_54 02-23-2009 02:00 PM

RE: deer hunting
 

ORIGINAL: DeerandbearhoG


ORIGINAL: blackiceslayer

A 7MM are you serious what kind of person asks this question??? Can i ask you have you ever hunted before that you dont know what a 7MM is capable of?? I mean honestly grow up!
This response is quite rude and uncalled for. It may come as a shock to such a knowledgeable, gun expert as yourself:eek: but most folks outside, and even many in, the hunting community, do not know the difference between a 9mm and 3006, and do not now what different caliber are suited for. Its obvious that this person falls into the "newbie" category, so why not try to educate him, like someone did for you once, instead of attacking him for asking a question?


why not be scared. how do you get a safety certificate if you don't your guns capabilities? and i dont know maybe it was my upbringing, (and maybe blackiceslayer's) i knew the difference between a 30-06 and a 9mm. and im pretty i sure i learned that in gun safety too. people need a good rump chewin once in a while

hunt91 02-23-2009 03:15 PM

RE: deer hunting
 
not gunna lie, i agree with slayer 54. what happens when someone decides to use a .223 for squirrel and the bullet goes 4 miles into a town. sometimes chewing someones ass does more than just a simple answer.

DeerandbearhoG 02-23-2009 07:13 PM

RE: deer hunting
 
I dont recall the guy asking about squirrel hunting with a 223 ,so I fail to see the relevance. Why should someone get a butt chewing for asking if a 7mag is enough for hunting coyotes , I hear people asking questions like," is a *enough for "* ,all the time, on every hunting forum on the web. It may sound a bit ignorant to us , but to assume the same person is gonna shoot at houses,people, or up into the trees, is a bit of a jump. When did he even say he was a hunter ,who took hunters saftey ,maybe hes a kid, or a complete novice, who doesnt know anything about guns, is that a crime? I also dont recall a caliber power level disscussion, when I took hunters saftey, all those years ago. Its a basic saftey and regualtions course, not a firearms education class.

patchholder 02-24-2009 06:38 PM

RE: deer hunting
 
I would think even if you were a complete novice you could just tell by looking at the cartridge it is a little much, they did teach usup here alot about firearmsin firearms safety though.

zmax hunter 02-24-2009 07:29 PM

RE: deer hunting
 
To answer the question, you bet, sure it would, but there are many other alternatives and there are many pros and cons to your choice, if i may suggest a few pros


1. You will be able to own one rifle to do nearly all of your North American Big game hunting
2. You shouldnt have to track your coyotes very far.
3. This caliber would come in very handy if you have very long shots.

a few of the cons

1. ammo would be a bit pricey
2. large holes if your hunting them for the fur
3. people always telling you its more "gun than you need"


I actually prefer my .300 win mag, it has a very wide range of bullet weights and styles with which i can reload it with, any where from 110 to 220 grain. I have used my .300 for everything from prairie dogs to Whitetails, and hope to one day take an Elk with it.
It is very flat shooting with the 110 grain bullets, has decent ballistic coefficents, will also takeall North American Big game except maybe the dangerous kind, I would want a .338 for those.

If you are new to this, I would actually recommend a 30-06, it will kill anything with antlers and the ammo is considerable cheaper.

another great alternative today is to purchase a Thompson Contender, they are a beautiful piece of craftsmanship, extremely accurate and you can purchase different barrels, ie....nearly all rifle calibers,shotgun,and muzzleloader. I am actually thinking of selling all of my guns and buying one Contender to handle the bulk of my hunting, I would have to keep the Benelli.

I shot these coyotes with my .300 this winter.



hunt91 02-24-2009 07:33 PM

RE: deer hunting
 
when i took hunters saftey they went through most of the major cartriges and what they were capable of. did anyone else have the field day when the instructor shot an ice block, water jug, cynder blocketc... and the .223 remark was just an example of a situation when knowing the caliber is a huge saftey factor.

DeerandbearhoG 02-24-2009 08:27 PM

RE: deer hunting
 

ORIGINAL: hunt91

when i took hunters saftey they went through most of the major cartriges and what they were capable of. did anyone else have the field day when the instructor shot an ice block, water jug, cynder blocketc... and the .223 remark was just an example of a situation when knowing the caliber is a huge saftey factor.
I took my course, in the basement of a sporting goods store, in the bronx , we had coffee and doughnuts ,no shooting water jugs and stuff though, although Im not sure what that would demonstrate, sure woulda made it more interesting.

As far as "knowing the caliber" why would that dictate how safe you are with a particular gun? Not sure I get that logic, are you more likely to point a 223, or even a slug gun, in an unsafe direction ,more than say, a 7mag? Its real simple dont point any gun at something you arent willing to destroy ,and know whats beyond it as well. Do that and it doesnt matter what caliber it is, does it?

driftrider 02-25-2009 06:47 AM

RE: deer hunting
 
Yes, a 7mm Rem Mag will kill a coyote very, very dead. If you don't care about the hide, then by all means blast the little SOB's to kingdom come with your 7mm. Coyote are vermin in most parts of the country. Around here the coyote will kill deer (mostly fawns), turkey, pheasant and even will maul newborn calves. I've seen pictures of calves partially eaten alive. Needless to say that the farmers don't want them around, and will nail them themselves if they get the chance.

Now, if you do want to sell the hide, the 7mm Mag isn't the best choice because it's going to seriously mess up a 40lb coyote. You might get away with using a solid or FMJ bullet, just beware of ricochet.

Mike


hunt91 02-25-2009 07:25 PM

RE: deer hunting
 
the ice block and jug were to show how powerfull guns are and that they r not toys(duh). and the "knowing your calibers" connection to saftey is that even though a .220 swift and a .22 are the same size bullet, the .220 is not an exceptible choice for shooting squirrels and crows out of trees. i do relize that this was not brought up in the post, just throwing out an example.

crokit 02-26-2009 04:10 AM

RE: deer hunting
 
The fact that it is first post, and no return in 10 days since, is an indicator, IMHO, that the original question was BS to begin with.

Have to agree with Fastetti and others who saw through the garbage.

1shotkill1993 02-26-2009 04:33 AM

RE: deer hunting
 
Why does this threads title say "deer hunting"?

But yes it would take it down easily.

hunt91 02-26-2009 09:59 AM

RE: deer hunting
 
i dont get the thread title either, but i dont think the person will ever reply back or much less stay on the fourm with then name being an e-mail address. thats my prediction.


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