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Remington Mod. 798
Hey guys, I was thinking about getting the Remington model 798 for deer, mule deer,coyote, etc. I was thinking about .243 it is the only caliber I like, but will it suffice for small black bears, and coyotes. What grain bullets for coyotes like Federal 55 grain, and for deer and black bear what grain, I was thinking 80 grain for deer, 100 grain for mule deer and black bear. Please give advice.
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RE: Remington Mod. 798
ORIGINAL: .243Heartshot Hey guys, I was thinking about getting the Remington model 798 for deer, mule deer,coyote, etc. I was thinking about .243 it is the only caliber I like, but will it suffice for small black bears, and coyotes. What grain bullets for coyotes like Federal 55 grain, and for deer and black bear what grain, I was thinking 80 grain for deer, 100 grain for mule deer and black bear. Please give advice. |
RE: Remington Mod. 798
Hmmm if your doing all that why not bump up to something a bitbigger? Also, You are only going to hunt for small black bears? If a big one comes you'll just let it go right by? If I were you I'd look into something along the lines of a .30-06. Common gun, lots of ammo available anywhere you go and it will cover all your needs. If your dead set on the .243. shoot 100 grain for deer and anything larger. The .243 is more than enough for deer, however if bear are in your future you might want to look at something a little bigger, JMO
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RE: Remington Mod. 798
As funny as "i only like a 243" sounds:D ,I think you might be on to something. w/ ammo prices skyrocketing, inventories low,and even reloading components drying up fast, it makes alot of sense to use the most common, inexpensive & efficient calibers possible. I never owned a 243, but I have a few friends that, for some odd reason, all use 223s, 222s and 22hornets to take some very nice bucks ,even on vital shots, and Id say the 243 has it all over those puny 22s. As far as black bears go, I think theyre toughnesss is overrated. Most are under 200lbs, and my 220lb, 2003 bear's rib cage, was about the size of the average doe's and their front shoulder are not that big either , just a little thicker hide than a deers. Hogs are defiinatly built tougher, and a ton are killed every year w/ 243s and less.
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RE: Remington Mod. 798
ORIGINAL: DeerandbearhoG As funny as "i only like a 243" sounds:D ,I think you might be on to something. w/ ammo prices skyrocketing, inventories low,and even reloading components drying up fast, it makes alot of sense to use the most common, inexpensive & efficient calibers possible. I never owned a 243, but I have a few friends that, for some odd reason, all use 223s, 222s and 22hornets to take some very nice bucks ,even on vital shots, and Id say the 243 has it all over those puny 22s. As far as black bears go, I think theyre toughnesss is overrated. Most are under 200lbs, and my 220lb, 2003 bear's rib cage, was about the size of the average doe's and their front shoulder are not that big either , just a little thicker hide than a deers. Hogs are defiinatly built tougher, and a ton are killed every year w/ 243s and less. |
RE: Remington Mod. 798
I'd bump it up to a .308 or 30-06. Too very easy bullets to buy, and the bullet range on the 30-06 is 110 to 220 or something like that. I'd feel much more comfortable with that in my hands than a 100 grain .243. I used a .243 from the time I was 8 'til I was 12. Then I switched to a .308, and would never go back to a .243 unless I had to. Now I mainly use a .45 grain muzzleloader.
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RE: Remington Mod. 798
I would also say bump it up to a .308. Its the parent cartridge of the .243 and also has fairly mild recoil and gives you a lot more options. If you have your heart set on the .243 I think 100 grains is the minimum for whitetail and mule deer and black bear...although you better pick your shots real carefully with the mulies and bear.
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RE: Remington Mod. 798
The 798 is a really nice gun- you won't be sorry with that purchase. The .243 should do the job for everything you mentioned, though it is a little on the light side for black bears. I'd use a 55 - 75 grain bullet for coyotes, a 90 - 100 grain bullet for deer, and a 100 grain premium bullet (i.e. Nosler, Barnes, etc.) for black bear. I wouldn't try angling, difficult shots on black bears. If you wait until you have a good standing broadside shot, put it behind the shoulder and it should do the job. You may need a follow-up shot sometimes, depending on how big the bear is.
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RE: Remington Mod. 798
Why does everyone think you need a huge bullet to kill a deer? A 100 grain bullet is big enough to kill about anythain in North America, if your a good enough shot. It dosent matter what the animal is,if it has 100 grains of lead going threw its heart or lungs it is going to die.
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