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tim03b 12-27-2008 07:58 AM

Baiting
 
Is there a difference putting outa scent wick and a food pile to attract deer? I mean arent both considered baiting???
Wouldnt both of them be considered "tricking" a deer to come in for a closer shot?:eek:

BowtechHunting 12-27-2008 08:18 AM

RE: Baiting
 

I agree. What's the difference on planting a food plot or putting out Come'er Deer(TM)? Or apples, corn, etc.? Nothing! It's all baiting!

Charlie P 12-27-2008 08:39 AM

RE: Baiting
 

What's the difference on planting a food plot or putting out Come'er Deer(TM)? Or apples, corn, etc.?
Your right no difference between a 5 acre food plot and a 5 sq feet of food.:eek:

Charlie P 12-27-2008 08:41 AM

RE: Baiting
 

Is there a difference putting outa scent wick and a food pile to attract deer?
Huge differece.

SWThomas 12-27-2008 08:54 AM

RE: Baiting
 
Luring a deer is luring a deer no matter how you do it. You're still accomplishing the same objective.

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Centauri 12-27-2008 09:22 AM

RE: Baiting
 
In areas that I hunt in, there are very few deer, so baiting is the only chance you have of seeing a deer, unless you like to look at trees all day. Not everyone gets to hunt on farmland.

Charlie P 12-27-2008 09:37 AM

RE: Baiting
 
I'll have to tell that to the guys I know that hunt the Adirondeck mountains and the 9 ptr on mile wall I killed a mile into the woods.

Southern Buck 12-27-2008 09:48 AM

RE: Baiting
 
DT249 there is more than just going out and finding a tree you like to climb and put corn out people that use corn do just as much scouting as anyone else would, you have got to find out where the deer are you just cant go out and put some corn out and the deer will come it doesnt work that way. I have no problem with baiting I wish that they would legalize it here in Georgia because where I hunt at there is no way to plant a food plot as deep in the woods as I go so corn would workreally well. It is no different than hunting over a feild of peas, alfalfa, soybeans ect. they are all types of baits nomatter how you look at it its all baiting the deer, trying to get them to come in a little closer so you can get a better shot. So Hunter A and Hunter B are not at all that different just that one has the resorces to plant food plots because he probably has the stuff to do so, or he has forked out some cash so he can huntwhere someone has already plantedthefeildsand the other has no way of doing so and there for hes uses corn.

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D Rock 12-27-2008 11:08 AM

RE: Baiting
 
I think there is a difference between the two, but one thing I cannot stand is when people call planting food plots baiting. To me the food plots that I plant are improving the habitat for all animals on our property. I am taking a piece of land and planting something that ensures a food source for everything from rabbits to birds to turkeys to deer. Most of your food plot plants such as clover aren't even a prefered source of food when it gets cold later in season. So to say that a hunter is baiting deer with a 1/2 acre of clover on his property just doesn't make sence.

There is a verybig difference between baiting and habitat improvement.Once that baitpile runs out the food is gone and there is no longer a benifit toanimals. Once you plant a food plot the benifit is going to be there for quite some time.

crokit 12-27-2008 11:18 AM

RE: Baiting
 
[quote]ORIGINAL: Charlie P

I'll have to tell that to the guys I know that hunt the Adirondeck mountains



A MEN, brother

TimberCreek 12-27-2008 11:51 AM

RE: Baiting
 
Baiting adds to the chances of spreading diseases like CWD. Food plots spread the dear out so there is no congregation in one area. No matter how you look at it wheather it is feed, scent or a call the intent is to lure the deer to you. We can all argue and try to justify one way or another all day long. I am not against baiting but it is what it is no matter how you do it. The intent is to bait the deer in to you for a shot. Put a food plot out but never hunt the area and you would be supplimental feeding and not baiting!!

Tobe_B 12-27-2008 12:39 PM

RE: Baiting
 
I'm goin to vote maybe so, and here is why. I have hunted over food plots, feeders, and hung stands over scouted trails. I have tracked my animals, spotted and stocked, and even did a deer drive once. Through all this I learned that it isn't just your personal preference, but also the layout of the land, the availability of cover, and the amount of land that is available for you to hunt. Just because someone in one state has 40,000 acres of public land to hunt doesn't mean that their style of hunting is going to work for someone in another state with 50 acres. Just because the guy hunting the 40,000 acres can spot and stalk and can afford to push deer into other areas, doesn't mean that the guy hunting the 50 acres can. Every hunter wants to do what they can to maximize their chance for success, and the same tactics won't always work for different hunters with different situations.

Also, I am starting to think that you guys are beating this topic around for no other reason except to argue how you are right and noone else is. Very few people are gonna change their mind, the reason being, that the person on the other side of the argument is just as stubborn as yourself.

This is directed at noone in particular, I haven't been on this forum long enough to harbor any ill feelings toward anyone. I just wanted folks to know where I stand and why, and for anyone who still has doubts about where I stand, I will say this, I am sittin on the fence.

nchawkeye 12-27-2008 01:51 PM

RE: Baiting
 
Why would a hunter in one state even care how a hunter in another state hunted???

The American Indians ran buffalo off cliffs to kill them, wasn't too sporting, but it was effective...:D

TimberCreek 12-27-2008 03:16 PM

RE: Baiting
 
Now you've done it! Everyone is going to want a cliff now!

CamoCop 12-27-2008 06:21 PM

RE: Baiting
 
"baiting" is putting a food source(anything ingestible) out to attract game for the sole purpose of harvesting.

tim03b 12-27-2008 11:08 PM

RE: Baiting
 

ORIGINAL: tim03b

Is there a difference putting outa scent wick and a food pile to attract deer? I mean arent both considered baiting???
Wouldnt both of them be considered "tricking" a deer to come in for a closer shot?:eek:
I know that. But is there a difference between baiting with a pile of corn or baiting with a scent wick that has been dipped into urine?

glockman55 12-29-2008 08:42 AM

RE: Baiting
 

ORIGINAL: tim03b

Is there a difference putting outa scent wick and a food pile to attract deer? I mean arent both considered baiting???
Wouldnt both of them be considered "tricking" a deer to come in for a closer shot?:eek:
Sure there is, Bait is food, and deer urine is a love lure.

bayou_buckslayer 12-29-2008 10:34 PM

RE: Baiting
 
YALL DROP IT!!!

idunno 12-29-2008 10:48 PM

RE: Baiting
 

ORIGINAL: glockman55


ORIGINAL: tim03b

Is there a difference putting outa scent wick and a food pile to attract deer? I mean arent both considered baiting???
Wouldnt both of them be considered "tricking" a deer to come in for a closer shot?:eek:
Sure there is, Bait is food, and deer urine is a love lure.


Yes very well put. Baiting is food such as corn or rice bran or anything consumable. Scents are considered a lure.Both do basically the same thing, but baiting is illegal in many areas. Here we can use bait or lure, but I hunt on public land where baiting is not allowed. You're not allowed to do anything that resembles "reserving a spot". The land is public. any tree can be used by anyone.

crokit 12-30-2008 06:06 AM

RE: Baiting
 
Just hunt. Save your guilt issues over baiting for a shrink.

TimberCreek 12-30-2008 10:46 AM

RE: Baiting
 

ORIGINAL: crokit

Just hunt. Save your guilt issues over baiting for a shrink.
If you don't want to see a shrink, call up your local conservation agent and discuss it with them, thats what they are there for!


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