wats you view on running deer with dogs
#31
RE: wats you view on running deer with dogs
ORIGINAL: huntr4lfe
I couldn't have said it better myself.
Personally I would not do it....it just seems like it is taking the hunting out of hunting.
Well generally speakinghunting never has been and never will be fair, they are deer. Their brain is the size of a pear, not capable of complex thought or complex communication. Ours is exactly the opposite(most of usanyway), which makes for the most part "hunting" deer easy(in a sense).
All of you guys that are doing the real "hunting" and of course not using dogs let me ask yousome questions.
Do you use a compound, rifle, shotgun?
Scopes, optics, rangefinders?
Grunt calls, rattling antlers, bleat cans?
Doe pee, buck pee, cover scents?
Food plots, bait stations, trail cameras?
Aerial photos, topo maps, mountains of other hunting info resources?
Yeah real fair guys, way to go. Now that's hunting.
Just playing devils advocate as Itoo use all of the above plus more and I am a die hard still hunter as well, but if I use a dog as a tool to hunt the thickest, nastiestparts of the land I can hunt during firearms seasonI'm not hunting?If you say so.
#32
RE: wats you view on running deer with dogs
ORIGINAL: DropTine249
Dont care, not legal here in NJ.
If it were to be considered, I'd fight with tooth and nail, along with every other hunter I know.
We're not about deer population control or hunting for meat, we're about hunting big, mature bucks...so an alreaady WAY too long gun seaosn AND the use of dogs would kill our deer herd in this State.
Those States that allow dogs, you can keep them !
Dont care, not legal here in NJ.
If it were to be considered, I'd fight with tooth and nail, along with every other hunter I know.
We're not about deer population control or hunting for meat, we're about hunting big, mature bucks...so an alreaady WAY too long gun seaosn AND the use of dogs would kill our deer herd in this State.
Those States that allow dogs, you can keep them !
This question (for anyone) usually makes me laugh. How many commenting have ever dog hunted with an organized group of dog hunters or been to a state/county that allows dog hunting?
#33
Typical Buck
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RE: wats you view on running deer with dogs
ORIGINAL: DropTine249
Dont care, not legal here in NJ.
If it were to be considered, I'd fight with tooth and nail, along with every other hunter I know.
We're not about deer population control or hunting for meat, we're about hunting big, mature bucks...so an alreaady WAY too long gun seaosn AND the use of dogs would kill our deer herd in this State.
Those States that allow dogs, you can keep them !
Dont care, not legal here in NJ.
If it were to be considered, I'd fight with tooth and nail, along with every other hunter I know.
We're not about deer population control or hunting for meat, we're about hunting big, mature bucks...so an alreaady WAY too long gun seaosn AND the use of dogs would kill our deer herd in this State.
Those States that allow dogs, you can keep them !
#34
Typical Buck
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RE: wats you view on running deer with dogs
ORIGINAL: 1shotkill1993
Any dog huntin on a big game animal is unethical. Bear hunting with dogs for instance, how could you feel good about killing a bear that has been run around by dogs until it can't run anymore and it climbs up a tree. Its just a helpless animal. I'm sorry, but I will never go on a hunt like that.
Honestly, I don't know how you would deer hunt with dogs. But I assume its the same thing? No way I would do it.
And I get tired of having people run their dogs around, pretty much ruining my hunt.
Any dog huntin on a big game animal is unethical. Bear hunting with dogs for instance, how could you feel good about killing a bear that has been run around by dogs until it can't run anymore and it climbs up a tree. Its just a helpless animal. I'm sorry, but I will never go on a hunt like that.
Honestly, I don't know how you would deer hunt with dogs. But I assume its the same thing? No way I would do it.
And I get tired of having people run their dogs around, pretty much ruining my hunt.
sitting down wind of a deer and shooting it is killing a harmless animal (yes i do it)
#38
RE: wats you view on running deer with dogs
ORIGINAL: DropTine249
Dont care, not legal here in NJ.
If it were to be considered, I'd fight with tooth and nail, along with every other hunter I know.
We're not about deer population control or hunting for meat, we're about hunting big, mature bucks...so an alreaady WAY too long gun seaosn AND the use of dogs would kill our deer herd in this State.
Those States that allow dogs, you can keep them !
Dont care, not legal here in NJ.
If it were to be considered, I'd fight with tooth and nail, along with every other hunter I know.
We're not about deer population control or hunting for meat, we're about hunting big, mature bucks...so an alreaady WAY too long gun seaosn AND the use of dogs would kill our deer herd in this State.
Those States that allow dogs, you can keep them !
Seasons
Fall Bow 9,994
Youth Hunt 725
Permit Bow 6,086
Six-day Firearm 8,243
Permit Muzzleloader 8,338
Permit Shotgun12,399
Winter Bow1,232
Total Harvest47,017
Antlered Harvest 17,467
Antlerless Harvest 29,549
Also from the site it appears there is an early 24 day bow season(most areas) and a late 27 day bow and another area is 42 days early and 45 late. The general firearms is 6 days and the shotgun season is 3 days, 28 days, or43 days(depending on Zone).
http://www.state.nj.us/dep/fgw/pdf/2008/regsets08-09.pdf
In all of the areas even with some seasons running at the same time bowhunters have more time in the woods with the extra 9 early days and extra 7 days late.
Hate to tell you this but you need those gun hunters to control that herd and allhunters probably need to kill a ton more does. Granted I know different areas require different techniques it sounds like you just don't want gun hunters interfering with you trophy bow hunting, regardless of what the state actually needs.
If they put it to a vote would you vote to shorten the firearms season? Don't answer that.
#39
RE: wats you view on running deer with dogs
You would think out of all of the unethical votes at least 1 person would have some kind of reason why it is unethical.
The poll should be:
Have you ever dog hunted? Yes
No
I have no idea what I'm talking about
The poll should be:
Have you ever dog hunted? Yes
No
I have no idea what I'm talking about