wats you view on running deer with dogs
12-20-2008, 03:21 PM
#51
Fork Horn
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: va USA
Posts: 201
RE: wats you view on running deer with dogs
If the deer hounders could keep their dogs off everyone else's land it would be ok. But they can't, it's the nature of the sport. Because it consistently has anegatively impact others who want nothing to do with it it should be removed or severly limited.
12-20-2008, 03:22 PM
#52
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: NW Oklahoma
Posts: 1,166
RE: wats you view on running deer with dogs
If it's legal it's legal, I guess. I'm just glad it's not legal in Oklahoma. Most of the land here is in 160 acre parcels or less. There is no was deer could be hunted with dogs and the dogs stay on one property. Occasionally coon or coyote hunters won't get all their dogs picked up and these dogs will go across country trailing deer. It ruins the hunting for a few days. I have no problem with it where it's legal, but it will never be legal here. There would be much hell raising if that happened.
12-21-2008, 06:26 PM
#54
Fork Horn
Join Date: Dec 2006
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Posts: 488
RE: wats you view on running deer with dogs
ORIGINAL: timbercruiser
As long as you have enough land that you do not interfere with others I have no problem with it. I've hunted with dogs many years in the past. The problem is when you/your dogs get on others hunting lands or land that the land owner doesn't want anybody or their dogs on the property. The idea of using dogs for hunting deer is just as ethical as using bird dogs, rabbit dogs or any other legal dog hunting method.
As long as you have enough land that you do not interfere with others I have no problem with it. I've hunted with dogs many years in the past. The problem is when you/your dogs get on others hunting lands or land that the land owner doesn't want anybody or their dogs on the property. The idea of using dogs for hunting deer is just as ethical as using bird dogs, rabbit dogs or any other legal dog hunting method.
12-22-2008, 07:28 PM
#56
Fork Horn
Join Date: Nov 2007
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Posts: 193
RE: wats you view on running deer with dogs
ORIGINAL: Beehunter
I agree 100%. I would love to go on a deer hunt with dogs, I think it would be a blast.
ORIGINAL: timbercruiser
As long as you have enough land that you do not interfere with others I have no problem with it. I've hunted with dogs many years in the past. The problem is when you/your dogs get on others hunting lands or land that the land owner doesn't want anybody or their dogs on the property. The idea of using dogs for hunting deer is just as ethical as using bird dogs, rabbit dogs or any other legal dog hunting method.
As long as you have enough land that you do not interfere with others I have no problem with it. I've hunted with dogs many years in the past. The problem is when you/your dogs get on others hunting lands or land that the land owner doesn't want anybody or their dogs on the property. The idea of using dogs for hunting deer is just as ethical as using bird dogs, rabbit dogs or any other legal dog hunting method.
12-22-2008, 08:45 PM
#58
Fork Horn
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: West Bend, WI
Posts: 358
RE: wats you view on running deer with dogs
Dogs will pursue deer and run them down....lot more stamina than deer. Hyenas are essentially dogs and do the same to catch their prey...as do wolves and coyotes.
If it's legal where you are....I'm all for it. Not my decision to judge hunting rights in a state all the way across the country from me....This is an old subject....let it be.
If it's legal where you are....I'm all for it. Not my decision to judge hunting rights in a state all the way across the country from me....This is an old subject....let it be.
12-22-2008, 10:20 PM
#59
Typical Buck
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Kansas Unit 7
Posts: 576
RE: wats you view on running deer with dogs
I grew up riding shotgun in a coyote wagon and still do a few times each year. There used to be a bounty on coyotes, all they wanted was their ears as proof.
Some states have SO many deer, i am surprised insurance companies dont pay a bounty for each one taken by a hunter. ok, maybe no bounty for the 6.5 yo 200" buck but say pay $25 for each Doe. i could be on to something here, legislators, insurers, read up.
The ethics and morals, police, blah blah..... i just wish ppl would try to understand that things are done differently in each state, dogs chasing dogs, cougar, bear, birds.....heck, i'd chase dinosaurs with them if i could. Baiting, scents, calls decoys, camo, blinds, guns, bows, food plots, feeders, high fences, leasing, guide services, is all about ONE thing
MONEY!
I too find it hard to believe that ppl think that chasing deer withdogs is unethical, just because a person doesnt approve of my hunting methods and they say "i would never do that" once again, i say, if it is legal in your state, by all means, proceed!
What about Falconry? Chubbing for Sharks? Beating baby seals with clubs? Trapping a Beaver under water till it drowns? Using snares to choke your quarry to death? All legal in one state or another.
My state regulations tell me what i can and cannot do, the state owns the wildlife. If they change the rules then i have to abide and here, my state gives me many different opportunities and means with which to harvest, kill, hunt, bag, a deer. But i can't use a crossbow. (unless i'm handicapped)
Just because i can say, "i would never hunt behind a high fence thats.............no wait, i said, i will never pay a guide service thats...........ok, i guess i said i would never bait for deer because thats..............wow", you know what, all of these are legal in my state.........but i dont have to if i dont want to, thats the best part of Hunting!
Hunters need to and should support "Hunters" and stop bashing one another over LEGAL methods. and ifthey disagree with the legalities of such methods, they should consult their wildlife conservation officer, imo
Theres an old saying around here and i'm sure in many other parts of the country,.."The land owners own the ground during the day, but the coon hunters own it at night."
Some states have SO many deer, i am surprised insurance companies dont pay a bounty for each one taken by a hunter. ok, maybe no bounty for the 6.5 yo 200" buck but say pay $25 for each Doe. i could be on to something here, legislators, insurers, read up.
The ethics and morals, police, blah blah..... i just wish ppl would try to understand that things are done differently in each state, dogs chasing dogs, cougar, bear, birds.....heck, i'd chase dinosaurs with them if i could. Baiting, scents, calls decoys, camo, blinds, guns, bows, food plots, feeders, high fences, leasing, guide services, is all about ONE thing
MONEY!
I too find it hard to believe that ppl think that chasing deer withdogs is unethical, just because a person doesnt approve of my hunting methods and they say "i would never do that" once again, i say, if it is legal in your state, by all means, proceed!
What about Falconry? Chubbing for Sharks? Beating baby seals with clubs? Trapping a Beaver under water till it drowns? Using snares to choke your quarry to death? All legal in one state or another.
My state regulations tell me what i can and cannot do, the state owns the wildlife. If they change the rules then i have to abide and here, my state gives me many different opportunities and means with which to harvest, kill, hunt, bag, a deer. But i can't use a crossbow. (unless i'm handicapped)
Just because i can say, "i would never hunt behind a high fence thats.............no wait, i said, i will never pay a guide service thats...........ok, i guess i said i would never bait for deer because thats..............wow", you know what, all of these are legal in my state.........but i dont have to if i dont want to, thats the best part of Hunting!
Hunters need to and should support "Hunters" and stop bashing one another over LEGAL methods. and ifthey disagree with the legalities of such methods, they should consult their wildlife conservation officer, imo
Theres an old saying around here and i'm sure in many other parts of the country,.."The land owners own the ground during the day, but the coon hunters own it at night."