RE: wats you view on running deer with dogs
ORIGINAL: huntr4lfe Personally I would not do it....it just seems like it is taking the hunting out of hunting. Well generally speakinghunting never has been and never will be fair, they are deer. Their brain is the size of a pear, not capable of complex thought or complex communication. Ours is exactly the opposite(most of usanyway), which makes for the most part "hunting" deer easy(in a sense). All of you guys that are doing the real "hunting" and of course not using dogs let me ask yousome questions. Do you use a compound, rifle, shotgun? Scopes, optics, rangefinders? Grunt calls, rattling antlers, bleat cans? Doe pee, buck pee, cover scents? Food plots, bait stations, trail cameras? Aerial photos, topo maps, mountains of other hunting info resources? Yeah real fair guys, way to go. Now that's hunting. Just playing devils advocate as Itoo use all of the above plus more and I am a die hard still hunter as well, but if I use a dog as a tool to hunt the thickest, nastiestparts of the land I can hunt during firearms seasonI'm not hunting?If you say so. |
RE: wats you view on running deer with dogs
ORIGINAL: DropTine249 Dont care, not legal here in NJ. If it were to be considered, I'd fight with tooth and nail, along with every other hunter I know. We're not about deer population control or hunting for meat, we're about hunting big, mature bucks...so an alreaady WAY too long gun seaosn AND the use of dogs would kill our deer herd in this State. Those States that allow dogs, you can keep them ! This question (for anyone) usually makes me laugh. How many commenting have ever dog hunted with an organized group of dog hunters or been to a state/county that allows dog hunting? |
RE: wats you view on running deer with dogs
ORIGINAL: DropTine249 Dont care, not legal here in NJ. If it were to be considered, I'd fight with tooth and nail, along with every other hunter I know. We're not about deer population control or hunting for meat, we're about hunting big, mature bucks...so an alreaady WAY too long gun seaosn AND the use of dogs would kill our deer herd in this State. Those States that allow dogs, you can keep them ! |
RE: wats you view on running deer with dogs
ORIGINAL: 1shotkill1993 Any dog huntin on a big game animal is unethical. Bear hunting with dogs for instance, how could you feel good about killing a bear that has been run around by dogs until it can't run anymore and it climbs up a tree. Its just a helpless animal. I'm sorry, but I will never go on a hunt like that. Honestly, I don't know how you would deer hunt with dogs. But I assume its the same thing? No way I would do it. And I get tired of having people run their dogs around, pretty much ruining my hunt. sitting down wind of a deer and shooting it is killing a harmless animal (yes i do it) |
RE: wats you view on running deer with dogs
Ethical? Sure, why not as long as it's legal.
Do I like it? No. |
RE: wats you view on running deer with dogs
I SAY IF YOU WANT TO KEEP'EM LET THEM RUN IN YOUR YARD, IF NOT LET'EM RUN ON MY LAND.....
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RE: wats you view on running deer with dogs
i think that its not good running deer is illegal here in new york encons will shoot dogs running deer
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RE: wats you view on running deer with dogs
ORIGINAL: DropTine249 Dont care, not legal here in NJ. If it were to be considered, I'd fight with tooth and nail, along with every other hunter I know. We're not about deer population control or hunting for meat, we're about hunting big, mature bucks...so an alreaady WAY too long gun seaosn AND the use of dogs would kill our deer herd in this State. Those States that allow dogs, you can keep them ! Seasons Fall Bow 9,994 Youth Hunt 725 Permit Bow 6,086 Six-day Firearm 8,243 Permit Muzzleloader 8,338 Permit Shotgun12,399 Winter Bow1,232 Total Harvest47,017 Antlered Harvest 17,467 Antlerless Harvest 29,549 Also from the site it appears there is an early 24 day bow season(most areas) and a late 27 day bow and another area is 42 days early and 45 late. The general firearms is 6 days and the shotgun season is 3 days, 28 days, or43 days(depending on Zone). http://www.state.nj.us/dep/fgw/pdf/2008/regsets08-09.pdf In all of the areas even with some seasons running at the same time bowhunters have more time in the woods with the extra 9 early days and extra 7 days late. Hate to tell you this but you need those gun hunters to control that herd and allhunters probably need to kill a ton more does. Granted I know different areas require different techniques it sounds like you just don't want gun hunters interfering with you trophy bow hunting, regardless of what the state actually needs. If they put it to a vote would you vote to shorten the firearms season? Don't answer that. |
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RE: wats you view on running deer with dogs
You would think out of all of the unethical votes at least 1 person would have some kind of reason why it is unethical.
The poll should be: Have you ever dog hunted? Yes No I have no idea what I'm talking about |
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