Neighbor's dog shot
12-18-2008, 06:54 PM
#111
Dominant Buck
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Ramsey , Indiana
Posts: 22,545
RE: Neighbor's dog shot
What was the dog doing when the shooter pulled the trigger? You can't completely condemn the shooter without knowing the circumstances, for all you know he could have been defending himself or one of his kids from the dog, or perhaps protecting his livestock. My neighbor recently lost nearly nearly fifty chickens to a pair of pitbulls owned by a guy on the next street, these dogs ran freely all the time despite numerous warnings to the owner by neighbors and the sheriff. When he discovered the dogs in his pen killing his livestock he shot both of them, and then dropped them on their owner's front porch. I didn't blame him one bit for doing it, I would've done no less. Every state has animal restraint laws, your right to own a dog is contingent upon your observance of those laws whether you agree with them or not.
12-18-2008, 07:07 PM
#112
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South Mississippi
Posts: 5,233
RE: Neighbor's dog shot
I hear ya. And I don't think you will get too many arguments here. I think this post is mainly about someone blasting a dog for the hey of it.
I have two large 110lb dobermans, and I manage to keep them in yard with the help of thousands of volts from a shock collar. They respect the collar man. But what is one day one did get out. Its never happened in my 8 years of having the RF fence. I don't want slobhunter over the hill capping him just because he was bored.
I have two large 110lb dobermans, and I manage to keep them in yard with the help of thousands of volts from a shock collar. They respect the collar man. But what is one day one did get out. Its never happened in my 8 years of having the RF fence. I don't want slobhunter over the hill capping him just because he was bored.
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12-18-2008, 07:56 PM
#113
Fork Horn
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: NY! the middle part
Posts: 443
RE: Neighbor's dog shot
ORIGINAL: BetterBirddogs
As a guy who breeds, raises, and trains and field trials pointers I have no sympathy for your buddy or his dog. My dogs are very valuable. Having said that, I go to great lengths to make sure my dogs stay in their kennels. They are on a raised deck platform so they can't dig out and my kennels are charged with a fence charger so they can't climb out. If my dogs get out and get killed then thats a ME problem. I'm so tired of dog owners not taking ownership for their animals who are out wondering around. Bad deal for your neighbor but maybe he'll work harder to keep his new dog in the yard where it belongs.
As a guy who breeds, raises, and trains and field trials pointers I have no sympathy for your buddy or his dog. My dogs are very valuable. Having said that, I go to great lengths to make sure my dogs stay in their kennels. They are on a raised deck platform so they can't dig out and my kennels are charged with a fence charger so they can't climb out. If my dogs get out and get killed then thats a ME problem. I'm so tired of dog owners not taking ownership for their animals who are out wondering around. Bad deal for your neighbor but maybe he'll work harder to keep his new dog in the yard where it belongs.
12-18-2008, 08:41 PM
#114
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RE: Neighbor's dog shot
ORIGINAL: Leafrivermac
I agree and nobody should want to kill anything just for the heck of it. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you is a good practice. Everyone should realize that even under the best of care their neighbors dog could get out and reasonable tolerance should be given. . . . .Of course, I live out in the boondocks and if I saw two strange Dobs in the yard I would be a little leary.
I hear ya. And I don't think you will get too many arguments here. I think this post is mainly about someone blasting a dog for the hey of it.
I have two large 110lb dobermans, and I manage to keep them in yard with the help of thousands of volts from a shock collar. They respect the collar man. But what is one day one did get out. Its never happened in my 8 years of having the RF fence. I don't want slobhunter over the hill capping him just because he was bored.
I have two large 110lb dobermans, and I manage to keep them in yard with the help of thousands of volts from a shock collar. They respect the collar man. But what is one day one did get out. Its never happened in my 8 years of having the RF fence. I don't want slobhunter over the hill capping him just because he was bored.
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12-18-2008, 08:58 PM
#115
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Central Minnesota
Posts: 9,445
RE: Neighbor's dog shot
ORIGINAL: bigcountry
Man, I have had chickens a long time. I kept them segragated from dogs, foxes, etc. Its really not that difficult.
Like I said, your buddies sound no different than the thugs in Baltimore or DC. If they want to be like these people down there, its their prerogative.
ORIGINAL: zrexpilot
bigcountry. On a farm theres no room for a chicken eating dog. Bottom line.
bigcountry. On a farm theres no room for a chicken eating dog. Bottom line.
Like I said, your buddies sound no different than the thugs in Baltimore or DC. If they want to be like these people down there, its their prerogative.
12-18-2008, 10:22 PM
#116
Typical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: N. Illinois
Posts: 527
RE: Neighbor's dog shot
Now you are talking ignorant crap. Apparantly you guys are pretend wannabe part timers, armchair gun toters. If you weren't this would never have gotten started. You should be able to figure this one out with discussing it. I would never shoot someones dog just because it was out. BUT! Can't figure the but out either, huh!
ORIGINAL: Lanse couche couche
The biggest liar is someone who says their dogshave always been100 percent under their control 100 percent of the time and the second biggest liars are the ones who say it will always be like that. Following your logic, you shouldnt get any sympathy if one of your kids gets killed or kidnapped because they werent 100 percent under your control.
There are plenty of times when I could have shot dogs and cats that wandered on my land from neighboring farms. But i had enough common sense to know they were doing no real harm and that if i did shoot them i would alienate people and lose access to their land for hunting or tracking wounded deer. Sometimes a little common sense goes a long way.
The biggest liar is someone who says their dogshave always been100 percent under their control 100 percent of the time and the second biggest liars are the ones who say it will always be like that. Following your logic, you shouldnt get any sympathy if one of your kids gets killed or kidnapped because they werent 100 percent under your control.
There are plenty of times when I could have shot dogs and cats that wandered on my land from neighboring farms. But i had enough common sense to know they were doing no real harm and that if i did shoot them i would alienate people and lose access to their land for hunting or tracking wounded deer. Sometimes a little common sense goes a long way.
12-19-2008, 07:45 AM
#117
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Southwest Ohio
Posts: 10,277
RE: Neighbor's dog shot
Yes, apparently some folks here don't know that deer season often (although not always) overlaps with many other seasons that involve hunting with dogs. So, FACT, people don't have tokeep their dogs home and restrained during many deer seasons because they have just as much right to be outin the woods as Billy Bob sittingin his deer stand just itching to drop the hammer on a ferocious two year old black lab. Another FACT, many landowners don't deer hunt and/orvalue their pets more than they do your deer hunting. So, you shoot the wrong dog and you are risking losing the right to hunt in that area or the right to enteradjacent properties to retrieve wounded deer. FACT: If you shoot a dog by your deer stand, think about what you have just done. You now have fresh dog blood, pee, and crap splattered all over. That is just gonna workwonders to get deer to come in range. Also, you now have to get rid of the carcass.When you start dragging a dog carcass thru the woods you are likely doing a much better job of spooking game and ruining the hunt for nearby hunters than any dog running thru the area ever could.Think it thru guys, think it thru.
12-19-2008, 08:29 AM
#118
Fork Horn
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 102
RE: Neighbor's dog shot
ORIGINAL: Leafrivermac
I agree and nobody should want to kill anything just for the heck of it. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you is a good practice. Everyone should realize that even under the best of care their neighbors dog could get out and reasonable tolerance should be given. . . . .Of course, I live out in the boondocks and if I saw two strange Dobs in the yard I would be a little leary.
I hear ya. And I don't think you will get too many arguments here. I think this post is mainly about someone blasting a dog for the hey of it.
I have two large 110lb dobermans, and I manage to keep them in yard with the help of thousands of volts from a shock collar. They respect the collar man. But what is one day one did get out. Its never happened in my 8 years of having the RF fence. I don't want slobhunter over the hill capping him just because he was bored.
I have two large 110lb dobermans, and I manage to keep them in yard with the help of thousands of volts from a shock collar. They respect the collar man. But what is one day one did get out. Its never happened in my 8 years of having the RF fence. I don't want slobhunter over the hill capping him just because he was bored.
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12-19-2008, 08:36 AM
#119
Fork Horn
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 102
RE: Neighbor's dog shot
ORIGINAL: bigcountry
And thats one thing I have to keep conscience is most people who see my boys are scared of them and first thing they would want to do is run or shoot em. So I have to extra cautious about them getting loose.
ORIGINAL: Leafrivermac
I agree and nobody should want to kill anything just for the heck of it. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you is a good practice. Everyone should realize that even under the best of care their neighbors dog could get out and reasonable tolerance should be given. . . . .Of course, I live out in the boondocks and if I saw two strange Dobs in the yard I would be a little leary.
I hear ya. And I don't think you will get too many arguments here. I think this post is mainly about someone blasting a dog for the hey of it.
I have two large 110lb dobermans, and I manage to keep them in yard with the help of thousands of volts from a shock collar. They respect the collar man. But what is one day one did get out. Its never happened in my 8 years of having the RF fence. I don't want slobhunter over the hill capping him just because he was bored.
I have two large 110lb dobermans, and I manage to keep them in yard with the help of thousands of volts from a shock collar. They respect the collar man. But what is one day one did get out. Its never happened in my 8 years of having the RF fence. I don't want slobhunter over the hill capping him just because he was bored.
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12-19-2008, 08:46 AM
#120
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Southwest Ohio
Posts: 10,277
RE: Neighbor's dog shot
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